Potvin C consequences [Two-Stage / GS Designs]
Hey easy now,
While that sounds good it is only very rarely the truth.
I can't follow you, in particular the parts in red.
Your type I error is not depending on your estimates and thus not depending on whether you went into stage 2 or not. They are depending on the true GMR, the (true) variability, N and the underlying stats assumptions; you may have estimates of the CV and GMR and your N is known.
Note also that when we speak of type I error it is often implied that it is the maximum type I error. By definition, it is on the acceptance borders that you get an idea of the type I errors.
❝ ❝ Of course, ElMaestro is right.
While that sounds good it is only very rarely the truth.
❝ take a look at some (theoretical) situation: a Sponsor goes with Potvin C (don't ask me why), moreover, he proved that with the current CV and n1 T1E does not exceed 5%.
❝ But as you showed in the lectures and in example above, Potvin C could not ensure 5% for all combinations. Thus, during stage 1 the CV was lower and the resulted T1E was out of 5%.
❝ What would be the right (safe) way out in such situation?
I can't follow you, in particular the parts in red.
Your type I error is not depending on your estimates and thus not depending on whether you went into stage 2 or not. They are depending on the true GMR, the (true) variability, N and the underlying stats assumptions; you may have estimates of the CV and GMR and your N is known.
Note also that when we speak of type I error it is often implied that it is the maximum type I error. By definition, it is on the acceptance borders that you get an idea of the type I errors.
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Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Complete thread:
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- T1E after 1st stage in TSDs Helmut 2022-06-24 14:33
- T1E after 1st stage in TSDs mittyri 2022-06-24 21:12
- T1E after 1st stage in TSDs Helmut 2022-06-25 14:07
- Potvin C consequences mittyri 2022-06-25 23:29
- Potvin C consequencesElMaestro 2022-06-26 09:11
- Potvin C consequences mittyri 2022-06-27 13:45
- Potvin C consequences Helmut 2022-06-27 14:49
- from Potvin C to Inverse Normal mittyri 2022-06-27 17:13
- From Potvin C to Inverse Normal: history (and outlook?) Helmut 2022-06-27 18:54
- from Potvin C to Inverse Normal mittyri 2022-06-27 17:13
- Potvin C consequences ElMaestro 2022-06-27 17:13
- true CV ≠ observed CV mittyri 2022-06-27 17:22
- Potvin C consequences Helmut 2022-06-27 14:49
- Potvin C consequences mittyri 2022-06-27 13:45
- Potvin C consequencesElMaestro 2022-06-26 09:11
- Potvin C consequences mittyri 2022-06-25 23:29
- T1E after 1st stage in TSDs Helmut 2022-06-25 14:07
- T1E after 1st stage in TSDs mittyri 2022-06-24 21:12
- T1E after 1st stage in Power2Stage ElMaestro 2022-06-24 18:25
- T1E after 1st stage in Power2Stage mittyri 2022-06-24 21:05
- T1E after 1st stage in Power2Stage ElMaestro 2022-06-24 22:55
- T1E after 1st stage in Power2Stage mittyri 2022-06-24 21:05
- T1E after 1st stage in TSDs Helmut 2022-06-24 14:33