OT: Bias of AUCt, AUCall, pAUC [Regulatives / Guidelines]
Hi ElMaestro,
There will always be a bias in any AUC-approach if BQLs come into play and the true T/R-ratio is not exactly sufficiently close to unity. Exceptions: Comparison of (reliably) estimated AUC0–∞ or AUC0–t(common).
Since the bias will point away from unity, the T/R-ratio will get worse and regulators don’t care (wrong but conservative).
Example: I used the C1-column of this post as the reference (complete data). Then I generate three others (T) as R/2. Lin-up/log-down trapezoidal AUCs. The T/R-ratio should be 0.5.
❝ […] it will not necessarily imply a bias on the BE conclusion unless someone can prove that E(ln(AUCall,T - ln(AUCall,R)) does not equal E(ln(AUCT) - ln(AUCR)), regardless of whether the latter is expressed as AUCinf or AUCt.
There will always be a bias in any AUC-approach if BQLs come into play and the true T/R-ratio is not
Since the bias will point away from unity, the T/R-ratio will get worse and regulators don’t care (wrong but conservative).
Example: I used the C1-column of this post as the reference (complete data). Then I generate three others (T) as R/2. Lin-up/log-down trapezoidal AUCs. The T/R-ratio should be 0.5.
- Complete data
PK metric T R T/R %RE
AUClast 1217.3 2434.6 0.500 ±0.00
AUCall 1217.3 2434.6 0.500 ±0.00
AUCcommon 1093.8 2187.5 0.500 ±0.00
AUC72 1217.3 2434.6 0.500 ±0.00
AUCinf 1298.4 2596.9 0.500 ±0.00
- C72 of T missing
PK metric T R T/R %RE
AUClast 1093.8 2434.6 0.449 –10.20
AUCall 1093.8 2434.6 0.449 –10.20
AUCcommon 1093.8 2187.5 0.500 ±0.00
AUC72 1216.6 2434.6 0.500 ±0.00
AUCinf 1297.2 2596.9 0.500 ±0.00
- C72 of T set to zero
PK metric T R T/R %RE
AUClast 1093.8 2434.6 0.449 –10.20
AUCall 1188.0 2434.6 0.488 –2.40
AUCcommon 1093.8 2187.5 0.500 ±0.00
AUC72 1188.0 2434.6 0.488 –2.40
AUCinf 1297.2 2596.9 0.500 ±0.00
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