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posted by Helmut 
– Vienna, Austria, 2020-05-15 15:42 (1047 d 02:09 ago) – Posting: # 21442
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Hi ElMaestro,
We all may be but…
It does (according to the manual and given in the output).
Yep, that’s the point! It gives me an answer to a question I did not ask (a model nobody uses for ages). Since I played around with the trial version, I can now say that it is a black ?.
At least for the replicate designs the carryover model is hardcoded, not specified in the manual, and there is no way to change that.
I just sent an email to NCSS’ support asking for a clarification.
Maybe.
I like this one:
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Of course, PASS passes IQ and OQ. Remember what you once wrote?
❝ I could be wrong but...
We all may be but…
❝ PASS may be assuming this is a case of two sample t-test-like-scenario,…
It does (according to the manual and given in the output).
❝ … where it does not take into consideration that the actual model causes additional reduction of df's.
Yep, that’s the point! It gives me an answer to a question I did not ask (a model nobody uses for ages). Since I played around with the trial version, I can now say that it is a black ?.
At least for the replicate designs the carryover model is hardcoded, not specified in the manual, and there is no way to change that.
I just sent an email to NCSS’ support asking for a clarification.
❝ You may be able to approximately reproduce PASS' result if you can override the df's in PowerTOST.
Maybe.
❝ I would still anyday say PowerTOST is more right than PASS, of course.
I like this one:
Of course, PASS passes IQ and OQ. Remember what you once wrote?
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