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Dear Detlefffffff,
I am with zizuo here.
No, it is an understanding, and it is a case of seeing things in another and very healthy perspective.
You are right, the conclusion is the same, but that is about it. The rest is to me pure and simple garbage; don't get me wrong, I am not criticising you but rather the inventor of the idea.
If someone reports a CI of 0.8456-1.0000 to me, then it might in actuality imply a 90% CI of 0.8456-0.98765 or whatever. Is that science? In a sense it makes no difference as the product is approved, but hey why bother at all then with this adjustment.
Why not just go all the way and adjust all CI's so that they span across 1.0 like...what was his name... some statistician twenty-thirty years ago.... his name was Lester Hamsterballs or something...?
Now if you will excuse me, I need to leave; I have to go to the supermarket now and buy a liter of milk. The ordinary price is 0.8 Euros but I only have half a Euro. So I think I will argue that the price needs to be adjusted to my buying power, or that my 0.5 Euro coin represents a value of 0.8. I am sure the "customer service relations manager", or whatevertheheck the guy behind the till is called, will agree. Why wouldn't he?!
I am with zizuo here.
❝ all you have written about CI(s) is more or less correct.
❝ But it's a misunderstanding.
No, it is an understanding, and it is a case of seeing things in another and very healthy perspective.
❝ The basic test to use for the BE decision is TOST with alpha = 0.05 by convention. And this is operationally identical to the interval inclusion rule, conventionally using an ordinary 1-2*alpha CI.
You are right, the conclusion is the same, but that is about it. The rest is to me pure and simple garbage; don't get me wrong, I am not criticising you but rather the inventor of the idea.
If someone reports a CI of 0.8456-1.0000 to me, then it might in actuality imply a 90% CI of 0.8456-0.98765 or whatever. Is that science? In a sense it makes no difference as the product is approved, but hey why bother at all then with this adjustment.
Why not just go all the way and adjust all CI's so that they span across 1.0 like...what was his name... some statistician twenty-thirty years ago.... his name was Lester Hamsterballs or something...?
Now if you will excuse me, I need to leave; I have to go to the supermarket now and buy a liter of milk. The ordinary price is 0.8 Euros but I only have half a Euro. So I think I will argue that the price needs to be adjusted to my buying power, or that my 0.5 Euro coin represents a value of 0.8. I am sure the "customer service relations manager", or whatevertheheck the guy behind the till is called, will agree. Why wouldn't he?!
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ElMaestro
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- Denmark Curiosa (1 in 90% CI in 0.8-1.25) zizou 2017-02-05 02:03 [Power / Sample Size]
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- Kudos! Helmut 2017-02-05 19:16
- Kudos! ElMaestro 2017-02-05 21:15
- Joking! Helmut 2017-02-06 13:27
- Thanks, and DKMA ElMaestro 2017-02-06 13:46
- Power with a Danish twist Helmut 2017-02-07 15:23
- Danish ultra-conservatism d_labes 2017-02-08 10:57
- Danish ultra-conservatism Helmut 2017-02-08 11:47
- Danish ultra-conservatism d_labes 2017-02-08 10:57
- Power with a Danish twist Helmut 2017-02-07 15:23
- Thanks, and DKMA ElMaestro 2017-02-06 13:46
- Kudos to ElMaestro! d_labes 2017-02-06 15:06
- Plausible Helmut 2017-02-06 17:16
- Plausible to me too d_labes 2017-02-06 20:25
- Plausible to me too ElMaestro 2017-02-06 22:30
- Plausible to me too zizou 2017-02-06 22:42
- THX d_labes 2017-02-07 10:01
- Plausible to me too d_labes 2017-02-06 20:25
- Plausible Helmut 2017-02-06 17:16
- Joking! Helmut 2017-02-06 13:27
- Kudos! ElMaestro 2017-02-05 21:15
- 3D Helmut 2017-02-06 13:47
- Denmark Curiosa (1 in 90% CI in 0.8-1.25) d_labes 2017-02-06 14:54
- Denmark Curiosa (1 in 90% CI in 0.8-1.25) zizou 2017-02-08 21:03
- Alternative CI for BE decision d_labes 2017-02-09 11:18
- Alternative CI for BE decisionElMaestro 2017-02-09 11:36
- Alternative CI for BE decision d_labes 2017-02-09 11:48
- How decidedly odd ElMaestro 2017-02-09 13:28
- How decidedly odd zizou 2017-02-09 14:42
- How decidedly odd ElMaestro 2017-02-09 13:28
- Alternative CI for BE decision Helmut 2017-02-09 13:41
- No alternative d_labes 2017-02-09 20:37
- No alternative ElMaestro 2017-02-10 13:51
- No alternative? mittyri 2017-02-10 15:28
- Dinamarka? d_labes 2017-02-10 20:10
- OT: Czech beer d_labes 2017-02-10 19:57
- No alternative? mittyri 2017-02-10 15:28
- No alternative ElMaestro 2017-02-10 13:51
- No alternative d_labes 2017-02-09 20:37
- Alternative CI for BE decision d_labes 2017-02-09 11:48
- Alternative CI for BE decisionElMaestro 2017-02-09 11:36
- Alternative CI for BE decision d_labes 2017-02-09 11:18
- Denmark Curiosa (1 in 90% CI in 0.8-1.25) zizou 2017-02-08 21:03
- Denmark Curiosa (1 in 90% CI in 0.8-1.25): Gone Helmut 2019-11-08 12:47
- Kudos! Helmut 2017-02-05 19:16
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