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RegisterImpact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the Type I Error [Two-Stage / GS Designs]
posted by Helmut 
– Vienna, Austria, 2016-12-30 02:22 (2667 d 14:50 ago) – Posting: # 16908
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Dear all,
on a recent occasion… We know that the minimum n2 = 2 as required in the Q&A document is meaningless. Either a study stops in the first stage or it continues with at least two subjects anyway.
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However, do not go further unless you know what you are doing. If you require a minimum stage 2 sample size all studies where a smaller sample size would already be sufficient to demonstrate BE with the target power are now forced to this size. Higher sample size ⇒ more degrees of freedom ⇒ narrower CI ⇒ higher probability to pass BE.
In other words, the TIE will also increase and one would have to use a lower adjusted α.
To the right an example what would happen if one modifies Potvin’s Methods B and C at the location (n1 12, CV 20%) of the maximum TIE and naïvely applies the ‘natural constant’ α 0.0294.
Not a very good idea. Own simulations are mandatory in order to find a suitable α!
on a recent occasion… We know that the minimum n2 = 2 as required in the Q&A document is meaningless. Either a study stops in the first stage or it continues with at least two subjects anyway.
However, do not go further unless you know what you are doing. If you require a minimum stage 2 sample size all studies where a smaller sample size would already be sufficient to demonstrate BE with the target power are now forced to this size. Higher sample size ⇒ more degrees of freedom ⇒ narrower CI ⇒ higher probability to pass BE.In other words, the TIE will also increase and one would have to use a lower adjusted α.
To the right an example what would happen if one modifies Potvin’s Methods B and C at the location (n1 12, CV 20%) of the maximum TIE and naïvely applies the ‘natural constant’ α 0.0294.
Not a very good idea. Own simulations are mandatory in order to find a suitable α!
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Complete thread:
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the Type I ErrorHelmut 2016-12-30 01:22
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- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the Type I Error ElMaestro 2016-12-30 12:12
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the TIE: example Helmut 2016-12-30 14:01
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the TIE: example ElMaestro 2016-12-30 17:19
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the TIE: example Helmut 2016-12-30 18:00
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the TIE: example ElMaestro 2016-12-30 18:50
- Bingo! Helmut 2016-12-30 19:00
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the TIE: example ElMaestro 2016-12-30 18:50
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the TIE: example Helmut 2016-12-30 18:00
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the TIE: example ElMaestro 2016-12-30 17:19
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the TIE: example Helmut 2016-12-30 14:01
- Impact of minimum stage 2 sample size on the Type I Error ElMaestro 2016-12-30 12:12
Ing. Helmut Schütz