Holy War of type III [Two-Stage / GS Designs]
Gentlemen (& Ladies),
I think a person with such skills couldn't be found within the whole galaxy. May be far, far away in the outer space .
If I would be such a person I nevertheless would by no means delve into the mud of Type I, II, III or even type IV tests in ANOVA .
There is some sort of Holy War out there with regard to such tests when it comes to unbalanced designs. This war is raging especially between the R folks and SAS adepts, the latter claimed to have invented "Type III" as I was told. Therefore it has to be seen as evil and must be abandoned by the R hordes under the virtual leadership of Douglas Bates.
No person with a lucid mind or even with an expert or mahatma status would participate in such a hassle. Not for money (even much!) nor for good words. Especially if considering that these F-Tests and pvalue Kuddelmuddel are nothing good for within the context of BE, only being a description of nuisance terms in the ANOVA model.
Better drink a good beer or a good glas of vine while contemplating about the meaning of life and that all.
❝ The ideal candidate for this drop1 extension would -purely hypothetically- be a statistical expert with mahatma status who has plenty spare time because he recently went into retirement. But of course, such people are hard to find.
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❝ Hötzi, do you think any such person exists on the planet or is it just wishful thinking?!??
I think a person with such skills couldn't be found within the whole galaxy. May be far, far away in the outer space .
If I would be such a person I nevertheless would by no means delve into the mud of Type I, II, III or even type IV tests in ANOVA .
There is some sort of Holy War out there with regard to such tests when it comes to unbalanced designs. This war is raging especially between the R folks and SAS adepts, the latter claimed to have invented "Type III" as I was told. Therefore it has to be seen as evil and must be abandoned by the R hordes under the virtual leadership of Douglas Bates.
No person with a lucid mind or even with an expert or mahatma status would participate in such a hassle. Not for money (even much!) nor for good words. Especially if considering that these F-Tests and pvalue Kuddelmuddel are nothing good for within the context of BE, only being a description of nuisance terms in the ANOVA model.
Better drink a good beer or a good glas of vine while contemplating about the meaning of life and that all.
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Regards,
Detlew
Regards,
Detlew
Complete thread:
- Potvin C in the EU Helmut 2013-04-16 17:40 [Two-Stage / GS Designs]
- Potvin C in the EU ElMaestro 2013-04-17 02:31
- Potvin C in the EU Helmut 2013-04-17 12:23
- 2 Groups model FDA d_labes 2013-04-17 13:10
- 2 Groups model FDA Helmut 2013-04-17 16:37
- Group effects obsolete? d_labes 2013-04-18 09:55
- Group effects FDA/EMA Helmut 2013-04-19 14:34
- Group effects FDA/EMA mittyri 2014-08-21 15:34
- Group effects FDA/EMA ElMaestro 2014-08-21 17:31
- Group effects EMA mittyri 2014-10-01 11:25
- Group effects EMA ElMaestro 2014-10-01 11:31
- Group effects EMA Helmut 2014-10-01 13:24
- Group effects EMA VStus 2016-10-06 22:06
- Group effects EMA ElMaestro 2016-10-07 12:45
- Group effects EMA mittyri 2016-10-07 15:06
- Fixed effects model with Group term mittyri 2016-10-09 13:27
- Fixed effects model: changing the F, p values mittyri 2016-10-10 18:33
- Fixed effects model: changing the F, p values ElMaestro 2016-10-10 20:10
- Fixed effects model: changing the F, p values Helmut 2016-10-11 00:17
- Holy War of type IIId_labes 2016-10-11 13:17
- Significance of Group effect in Russia: why the type III is so 'important' mittyri 2016-10-11 15:07
- Fixed effects model: changing the F, p values zizou 2016-10-11 01:06
- FDA group model in R mittyri 2016-10-11 13:43
- FDA group model in R ElMaestro 2016-10-12 01:07
- FDA group model in R VStus 2016-10-17 15:32
- FDA group model in R ElMaestro 2016-10-17 18:58
- FDA group model in R VStus 2016-10-20 13:57
- FDA group model in R ElMaestro 2016-10-17 18:58
- FDA group model in R mittyri 2016-10-11 13:43
- Fixed effects model: changing the F, p values ElMaestro 2016-10-10 20:10
- Fixed effects model with Group term VStus 2016-10-20 13:54
- Fixed effects model: changing the F, p values mittyri 2016-10-10 18:33
- Fixed effects model with Group term mittyri 2016-10-09 13:27
- Group effects EMA mittyri 2016-10-07 15:06
- Group effects EMA ElMaestro 2016-10-07 12:45
- Group effects EMA VStus 2016-10-06 22:06
- Group effects FDA/EMA zizou 2016-12-31 02:54
- Group effects FDA/EMA Helmut 2017-06-03 14:57
- Group effects EMA mittyri 2014-10-01 11:25
- Group effects FDA/EMA ElMaestro 2014-08-21 17:31
- Group effects FDA/EMA mittyri 2014-08-21 15:34
- Group effects FDA/EMA Helmut 2013-04-19 14:34
- 2 Groups model FDA hiren379 2013-08-22 14:32
- Homework Helmut 2013-08-23 11:53
- Group effects obsolete? d_labes 2013-04-18 09:55
- 2 Groups model FDA Helmut 2013-04-17 16:37
- 2 Groups model FDA d_labes 2013-04-17 13:10
- Potvin C in the EU Helmut 2013-04-17 12:23
- Potvin C in the EU ElMaestro 2013-04-17 02:31