Bioequivalence and Bioavailability Forum • Baseline; another example

Baseline; another example [Regulatives / Guidelines]

posted by Helmut – Vienna, Austria, 2015-09-18 19:16 (3406 d 19:56 ago) – Posting: # 15431
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Dear Ohlbe,

another example explaining the method outlined in this post.
There might not only be circadian fluctuations in the baseline but others with a lower frequency superimposed. The BL [12–25] consists of [10–20] within the day and [2–5] within a 28-days cycle. Let’s explore a four-period study:

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Fat lines are the pre-dose profiles to be sampled prior to administrations in each period according to the EMA’s GL.

What happens if we subtract these values from the the ones on the following days? I plotted the differences (ignoring the if-negative-set-to-zero rule).

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There will be small biases because the GL’s method assumes that baselines on dosing days are essentially identical to the ones before. The largest absolute bias is observed in periods 1 and 3 because we are close to the inflection points of the 28-days cycle. Less bias in periods 2 and 4 (close to the maximum and minimum).

The alternative method. Sampling only one baseline before period 1 and adjusting for the predose value in each period.

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Not so nice. However, think about the doubled sampling volume in the GL’s method…

Let’s dose! Identical BA in all periods (the true C_max 2.75 times the maximum baseline). What we would observe (periods stacked):

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First the GL’s method:

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Next the alternative:

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Practically superimposible profiles, methods almost indistinguishible. :-D

Bias (expressed as %RE). GL = 1, alternative = 2:

method 1 2 1 2 period AUC_t C_max 1 +0.97 +0.04 +0.48 -0.07 2 -0.22 -0.40 -0.07 -0.35 3 -0.96 -1.03 -0.48 -0.03 4 +0.22 -0.60 +0.07 +0.25

I can live with it; especially given that with the alternative method one needs 37.5% less blood samples.

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- Baseline correction or supra-therapeutic dose Helmut 2015-09-16 15:16
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        Geometric mean ≈ MLE of median Helmut 2024-11-14 09:54
        
        Geometric mean ≈ MLE of median Mahmoud 2024-11-15 11:26
        
        Bias? Helmut 2024-11-16 08:43
        
        Bias? Mahmoud 2024-11-16 11:12
    - Baseline; another exampleHelmut 2015-09-18 17:16
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        Baseline; another example nobody 2016-02-12 14:08
        
        Slowly going OT: BE study simulations Helmut 2016-02-12 15:47
        
        Slowly going OT: BE study simulations nobody 2016-02-12 16:15
        
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        Religious debate nobody 2016-02-14 15:23
        
        Slowly going OT: BE study simulations Ohlbe 2016-02-13 13:10
        
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