Confused [🇷 for BE/BA]
Good morning Helmut,
I'd prefer to compare the logarithmic likelihood to see which optimiser found the best peak, if they are not the same.
The 1:1 comparison here is Method C vs. bear using lme. The above AICs would give the impression that bear did not find the optimum well; possibly something to do with the model specification, but I hope to see the log likelihood and the df's.
From the posts above I'd say I am not completely sure the df's are equal all over the range, cf. the drug df's used for the t-statistics.
❝ Maybe it’s better to lok at the AIC (smaller = better)
❝ AIC
❝ bear -174.2564
❝ PHX Method A -29.0235
❝ PHX Method B -54.8339
❝ PHX Method C -190.0907
I'd prefer to compare the logarithmic likelihood to see which optimiser found the best peak, if they are not the same.
The 1:1 comparison here is Method C vs. bear using lme. The above AICs would give the impression that bear did not find the optimum well; possibly something to do with the model specification, but I hope to see the log likelihood and the df's.
From the posts above I'd say I am not completely sure the df's are equal all over the range, cf. the drug df's used for the t-statistics.
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Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Pass or fail!
ElMaestro

Complete thread:
- Reproducing Bear results in Phoenix mittyri 2015-04-14 08:35 [🇷 for BE/BA]
- Bug in bear? Helmut 2015-04-14 14:07
- Bug in bear? mittyri 2015-04-14 20:43
- Bug in bear? Helmut 2015-04-15 02:17
- use the same dataset? yjlee168 2015-04-20 10:13
- Bug in bear? mittyri 2015-04-14 20:43
- Bugs in bear with replicated demo data set? yjlee168 2015-04-15 09:38
- Bugs fixed in bear? yjlee168 2015-04-17 01:21
- Bugs fixed in bear? Helmut 2015-04-17 14:25
- Bugs fixed in bear? yjlee168 2015-04-17 18:50
- Bugs fixed in bear? ElMaestro 2015-04-17 23:14
- lme() in bear yjlee168 2015-04-18 11:12
- lme() in bear ElMaestro 2015-04-18 11:28
- lme() in bear yjlee168 2015-04-18 12:02
- lme() in bear ElMaestro 2015-04-18 13:42
- Mean means Helmut 2015-04-18 14:08
- Mean means ElMaestro 2015-04-18 16:01
- Mean means Helmut 2015-04-19 00:59
- Mean means ElMaestro 2015-04-19 09:14
- LL and AIC Helmut 2015-04-19 11:08
- ConfusedElMaestro 2015-04-19 11:42
- LL and AIC Helmut 2015-04-19 11:08
- lsmeans for mixed model in R yjlee168 2015-04-19 23:36
- lsmeans() & lme() Helmut 2015-04-20 01:28
- lsmeans() & lme() yjlee168 2015-04-20 10:23
- lsmeans() & lme() ElMaestro 2015-04-20 10:35
- keep it simple! Helmut 2015-04-20 14:34
- keep it simple! ElMaestro 2015-04-20 15:39
- ML vs. REML Helmut 2015-04-20 16:35
- keep it simple! ElMaestro 2015-04-20 15:39
- keep it simple! Helmut 2015-04-20 14:34
- lsmeans() & lme() Helmut 2015-04-20 01:28
- Mean means ElMaestro 2015-04-19 09:14
- Mean means Helmut 2015-04-19 00:59
- Mean means ElMaestro 2015-04-18 16:01
- Mean means Helmut 2015-04-18 14:08
- lme() in bear ElMaestro 2015-04-18 13:42
- lme() in bear yjlee168 2015-04-18 12:02
- lme() with NA in R yjlee168 2015-04-19 23:44
- lme() in bear ElMaestro 2015-04-18 11:28
- lme() in bear yjlee168 2015-04-18 11:12
- Dataset Helmut 2015-04-18 13:30
- Dataset and lme() in bear yjlee168 2015-04-18 23:14
- Bugs fixed in bear? ElMaestro 2015-04-17 23:14
- Bugs fixed in bear? yjlee168 2015-04-17 18:50
- Bugs fixed in bear? Helmut 2015-04-17 14:25
- Bug in bear? Helmut 2015-04-14 14:07