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LL and AIC [🇷 for BE/BA]

posted by Helmut – Vienna, Austria, 2015-04-19 13:08 (3715 d 11:57 ago) – Posting: # 14707
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Hi ElMaestro,

❝ You're right, it does look surprising.

Since Gnumeric is my (non-)pocket calculator (no modeling!) I concur that PHX’ results are the “correct” ones.

❝ Can you ask Phoenix what the log likelihood was when it had identified the minimum and compare with Yung-jin's logLik above?

Maybe it’s better to look at the AIC (lower = better)

               AIC       LL

bear          -174.2564  98.12818

PHX Method A   -29.0235  33.51175

PHX Method B   -54.8339  35.41696

PHX Method C  -190.0907 106.04533

❝ And what about those DF's?

Identical.

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Reproducing Bear results in Phoenix mittyri 2015-04-14 08:35 [🇷 for BE/BA]
- Bug in bear? Helmut 2015-04-14 14:07
  - Bug in bear? mittyri 2015-04-14 20:43
    - Bug in bear? Helmut 2015-04-15 02:17
  - use the same dataset? yjlee168 2015-04-20 10:13
- Bugs in bear with replicated demo data set? yjlee168 2015-04-15 09:38
- Bugs fixed in bear? yjlee168 2015-04-17 01:21
  - Bugs fixed in bear? Helmut 2015-04-17 14:25
    - Bugs fixed in bear? yjlee168 2015-04-17 18:50
      - Bugs fixed in bear? ElMaestro 2015-04-17 23:14
        
        lme() in bear yjlee168 2015-04-18 11:12
        
        lme() in bear ElMaestro 2015-04-18 11:28
        
        lme() in bear yjlee168 2015-04-18 12:02
        
        lme() in bear ElMaestro 2015-04-18 13:42
        
        Mean means Helmut 2015-04-18 14:08
        
        Mean means ElMaestro 2015-04-18 16:01
        
        Mean means Helmut 2015-04-19 00:59
        
        Mean means ElMaestro 2015-04-19 09:14
        
        LL and AICHelmut 2015-04-19 11:08
        
        Confused ElMaestro 2015-04-19 11:42
        
        lsmeans for mixed model in R yjlee168 2015-04-19 23:36
        
        lsmeans() & lme() Helmut 2015-04-20 01:28
        
        lsmeans() & lme() yjlee168 2015-04-20 10:23
        lsmeans() & lme() ElMaestro 2015-04-20 10:35
        
        keep it simple! Helmut 2015-04-20 14:34
        
        keep it simple! ElMaestro 2015-04-20 15:39
        
        ML vs. REML Helmut 2015-04-20 16:35
        
        lme() with NA in R yjlee168 2015-04-19 23:44
      - Dataset Helmut 2015-04-18 13:30
        
        Dataset and lme() in bear yjlee168 2015-04-18 23:14