Bugs fixed in bear? [🇷 for BE/BA]
Dear Yung-jin,
PHX/WNL uses a mixed-effects model with REML. In Proc Mixed you can get ML as well.
Hhm. I got R 7.32814, T 7.39188, PE 0.0637395 (PHX + manual) and SE 0.0475893 (PHX). Both bear’s R and T are shifted –0.03% compared to PHX/manual. Seems that the PE is correct, but how is it calculated from the means? IMHO 7.39 – 7.326071 = 0.063929 ≠ 0.06373952.
❝ … SAS (PROC MIXED) or WNL (same as SAS?) …
PHX/WNL uses a mixed-effects model with REML. In Proc Mixed you can get ML as well.
❝ • […] The correct one should be
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❝ Dependent Variable: log(Cmax)
❝ --------------------------------------
❝ MEAN-ref = 7.326071
❝ MEAN-test = 7.39
❝ SE = 0.04758714
❝ Estimate(test-ref) = 0.06373952
Hhm. I got R 7.32814, T 7.39188, PE 0.0637395 (PHX + manual) and SE 0.0475893 (PHX). Both bear’s R and T are shifted –0.03% compared to PHX/manual. Seems that the PE is correct, but how is it calculated from the means? IMHO 7.39 – 7.326071 = 0.063929 ≠ 0.06373952.
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