Some comments [Software]
Dear Elmaestro,
Exactly. No starting value can be set up with either PROC MIXED of SAS or lme() from package nlme of R. I still have no idea about which parameter is going to be optimized with both software.
Silly? maybe. Probably it is not possible to do that or is not necessary to do that. Otherwise, it should not be that way.
Need to sneak into and have a look at the source codes of package nlme. I did that before, but still with no luck to figure out yet. Even though we can find out, there is still nothing we can do. nlme is a very big and complicated package.
Exactly. No starting value can be set up with either PROC MIXED of SAS or lme() from package nlme of R. I still have no idea about which parameter is going to be optimized with both software.
❝ 1. Just read the documentation for the Proc Mixed settings; looks to me like it isn't possible at all to control starter values for the optimiser? That would be rather silly, if you ask me.[...]
Silly? maybe. Probably it is not possible to do that or is not necessary to do that. Otherwise, it should not be that way.
Need to sneak into and have a look at the source codes of package nlme. I did that before, but still with no luck to figure out yet. Even though we can find out, there is still nothing we can do. nlme is a very big and complicated package.
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All the best,
-- Yung-jin Lee
bear v2.9.2:- created by Hsin-ya Lee & Yung-jin Lee
Kaohsiung, Taiwan https://www.pkpd168.com/bear
Download link (updated) -> here
All the best,
-- Yung-jin Lee
bear v2.9.2:- created by Hsin-ya Lee & Yung-jin Lee
Kaohsiung, Taiwan https://www.pkpd168.com/bear
Download link (updated) -> here
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