Problems resolved? [Study Performance]
Hi Khaoula!
May I ask: Who are “they”?
Not necessarily. Only if you want to widen the acceptance range (EMA) or go with reference-scaling (FDA). But if CVWR <30% scaling is not allowed.
Mainly. If we assume the T/R-ratio and CV “as carved in stone” – which I would not recommend anyway – you would have needed the following sample sizes in order to demonstrate BE with 80% power:
Note that reference-scaling would not help with such a low CV.
You have a lot of problems arising from the study:
Why do you think so? You would need hundreds of subjects to squeeze the CI within the acceptance range.
Can you briefly summarize what you have learned?
A drug is that substance which, when injected into a rat,
will produce a scientific report. Anonymous
Pharmacokinetics: one of the magic arts of divination
whereby needles are stuck into dummies in an attempt
to predict profits. Stephen Senn
So instead of following a formula given in numerous papers and textbooks you rather trusted in the output of a piece of software?
❝ […] I havnt randomisation because they dont give me it, they asked me to try to understand where is the error, […]
May I ask: Who are “they”?
❝ […] our design is't appropriate (must have replicate design), […]
Not necessarily. Only if you want to widen the acceptance range (EMA) or go with reference-scaling (FDA). But if CVWR <30% scaling is not allowed.
❝ […] the problem of our study is number of subject, […]
Mainly. If we assume the T/R-ratio and CV “as carved in stone” – which I would not recommend anyway – you would have needed the following sample sizes in order to demonstrate BE with 80% power:
design method sample size
2×2×2 unscaled (80–125%) 630
2x2×3 fully replicated unscaled 472
2×2×4 fully replicated unscaled 316
2x2x3 scaled (EMA) 474
2×2×4 scaled (EMA) 316
2x2x3 scaled (FDA) 474
2×2×4 scaled (FDA) 318
Note that reference-scaling would not help with such a low CV.
You have a lot of problems arising from the study:
- The T/R-ratio of 121% is close to the upper limit of the acceptance range. Since the confidence interval (104.22%, 140.53%) does not include 100%, formulations are significantly different (p 0.04155). Is there an end of bugs in Kinetica? Despite the – wrong! – CI does also not include 100%, formulations are considered not significantly different (p 0.05391). Amazing.
- With such a large deviation from the reference any attempt to show BE in a larger study is not ethical, IMHO.
- The CV is untypically low for omeprazole’s Cmax. Maybe you were just lucky. But luck is not what you should expect for the next study.
❝ the test drug is really bioequivalent of réference, […]
Why do you think so? You would need hundreds of subjects to squeeze the CI within the acceptance range.
❝ this study was done to learn how to do biequivalennce study
Can you briefly summarize what you have learned?
A drug is that substance which, when injected into a rat,
will produce a scientific report. Anonymous
Pharmacokinetics: one of the magic arts of divination
whereby needles are stuck into dummies in an attempt
to predict profits. Stephen Senn
❝ I calculated CV with error = 0.0471261 and I had CV% = 100√(ℯ0.0471261 – 1) = 21.97% but I thought that I was wrong
So instead of following a formula given in numerous papers and textbooks you rather trusted in the output of a piece of software?
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- randomization khaoula 2014-06-06 14:04 [Study Performance]
- Imbalanced cross-overs Helmut 2014-06-06 14:47
- Imbalanced cross-overs khaoula 2014-06-06 16:03
- CV 0.03%? Helmut 2014-06-07 13:52
- Imbalanced cross-overs jag009 2014-06-09 15:36
- Imbalanced cross-overs khaoula 2014-06-09 22:07
- Bag full of bugs Helmut 2014-06-10 00:37
- Randomisation? ElMaestro 2014-06-10 01:00
- Randomisation? Helmut 2014-06-10 14:53
- Randomisation? khaoula 2014-06-11 00:17
- Problems resolved?Helmut 2014-06-11 02:01
- Problems resolved? khaoula 2014-07-24 13:36
- corrected data in PHX/WNL Helmut 2014-07-27 01:37
- Problems resolved? khaoula 2014-07-24 13:36
- Problems resolved?Helmut 2014-06-11 02:01
- Randomisation? khaoula 2014-06-11 00:17
- Randomisation? Helmut 2014-06-10 14:53
- Randomisation? ElMaestro 2014-06-10 01:00
- Which version of Kinetica? Helmut 2014-06-11 19:51
- Which version of Kinetica? khaoula 2014-06-12 00:41
- Which version of Kinetica? khaoula 2014-07-25 00:49
- adjusted means (aka LSMs) Helmut 2014-07-27 02:23
- adjusted means (aka LSMs) khaoula 2014-08-25 21:41
- adjusted means (aka LSMs) Helmut 2014-07-27 02:23
- Bag full of bugs Helmut 2014-06-10 00:37
- Imbalanced cross-overs khaoula 2014-06-09 22:07
- Imbalanced cross-overs khaoula 2014-06-06 16:03
- Imbalanced cross-overs Helmut 2014-06-06 14:47