Non-informative “profiles” [General Sta­tis­tics]

posted by Helmut Homepage – Vienna, Austria, 2014-03-11 14:29 (4064 d 17:11 ago) – Posting: # 12593
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Hi Fabrice,

❝ In one study (not a BE :wink:) we have to analyze, one patient has all concentrations < LLOQ after one treatment.

❝ As this was not really expected, this case was specifically planned neither in the study protocol nor in the SAP. The SAP however specified that concentrations < LLOQ should be set to zero, which then resulted in Cmax and AUClast = 0.


Though this was not a BE-study, still keep the BE-GL (Section 4.1.8) in mind:

[…] subjects in a crossover trial who do not provide evaluable data for both of the test and reference products (or who fail to provide evaluable data for the single period in a parallel group trial) should not be included.


❝ […] other patients also show a very low concentrations profile (but with at least one or two concentrations > LLOQ).


Well, that’s not what I would call informative profiles (EMA’s term: “reliable estimates of peak and extent of exposure”). Canada’s HPFB/TGD once stated that two points qualify for AUC and one for Cmax I’m not sure whether this really make sense. In PK modeling you could deal with censored data, but IMHO in NCA you would be reaching beyond meaningful boundaries.

❝ It therefore makes sense trying to keep these Cmax and AUC = 0 in the outcome of the statistical analysis, but of course, this information is being lost by the log-transformation: log(0)= :confused:.


I would exclude the subject and maybe the other subjects with only one or two concentrations as well.

❝ Different workarounds are possible:

❝ 1. Analyzing the data in the original scale without log-transformation


In principle yes. I’m not sure whether regulators would like that.

❝ 2. Imputing Cmax and AUClast by something positive. For Cmax, one can think using LLOQ or LLOQ/2, but what for AUClast?


Personally I don’t like these LLOQ or LLOQ/2 “methods”. In PK modeling it was shown that any of those don’t give better estimates compared to either keeping the values “missing” or work with censored data.

❝ Moreover, the results of the statistical analysis then become quite dependent of the selected imputation rule.


Correct. Slippery ground.

❝ 3. Applying a log(Param+d)- instead of a log(Param)-transformation, where d is a very small positive number. But again the statistical outcome is very dependent of the value chosen for d.


I have seen that in Canada. I don’t think any value of d could be reasonably justified.

❝ As it is the second time I face such a special case over the last few months, I would be very interested in having expert advices on the best (or less worse) practice to deal with it?


Doesn’t help you in the current case, but in the future I would try to improve the analytical method.

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