Log-transformation of "null" PK parameters [General Statistics]
Hello,
A multiplicative model is commonly admitted for PK parameters, which justifies that any statistical analysis is performed after log-transformation.
In one study (not a BE
) we have to analyze, one patient has all concentrations < LLOQ after one treatment.
As this was not really expected, this case was specifically planned neither in the study protocol nor in the SAP. The SAP however specified that concentrations < LLOQ should be set to zero, which then resulted in Cmax and AUClast = 0.
Nothing weird has been noticed on the clinical or laboratory side, and other patients also show a very low concentrations profile (but with at least one or two concentrations > LLOQ).
It therefore makes sense trying to keep these Cmax and AUC = 0 in the outcome of the statistical analysis, but of course, this information is being lost by the log-transformation: log(0)=
.
Different workarounds are possible:
Many thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!
A multiplicative model is commonly admitted for PK parameters, which justifies that any statistical analysis is performed after log-transformation.
In one study (not a BE

As this was not really expected, this case was specifically planned neither in the study protocol nor in the SAP. The SAP however specified that concentrations < LLOQ should be set to zero, which then resulted in Cmax and AUClast = 0.
Nothing weird has been noticed on the clinical or laboratory side, and other patients also show a very low concentrations profile (but with at least one or two concentrations > LLOQ).
It therefore makes sense trying to keep these Cmax and AUC = 0 in the outcome of the statistical analysis, but of course, this information is being lost by the log-transformation: log(0)=

Different workarounds are possible:
- Analyzing the data in the original scale without log-transformation
- Imputing Cmax and AUClast by something positive. For Cmax, one can think using LLOQ or LLOQ/2, but what for AUClast? Moreover, the results of the statistical analysis then become quite dependent of the selected imputation rule.
- Applying a log(Param+d)- instead of a log(Param)-transformation, where d is a very small positive number. But again the statistical outcome is very dependent of the value chosen for d.
Many thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!
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Kind regards,
Fabrice
Kind regards,
Fabrice
Complete thread:
- Log-transformation of "null" PK parametersfno 2014-03-11 12:18 [General Statistics]
- Non-informative “profiles” Helmut 2014-03-11 13:29
- Non-informative “profiles” Ohlbe 2014-03-11 13:47
- Non-informative “profiles” Helmut 2014-03-11 14:04
- Non-informative “profiles” fno 2014-03-11 15:52
- Non-informative “profiles” Helmut 2014-03-11 17:22
- Non-informative “profiles” ElMaestro 2014-03-11 18:50
- OT: log(0) - NaN, NA or what d_labes 2014-03-12 08:59
- OT: log(0) - NaN, NA, ‘.’, –∞, or empty Helmut 2014-03-12 15:31
- Non-informative “profiles” fno 2014-03-12 11:18
- Non-informative “profiles” nobody 2014-03-12 13:18
- OT: log(0) - NaN, NA or what d_labes 2014-03-12 08:59
- Non-informative “profiles” ElMaestro 2014-03-11 18:50
- Non-informative “profiles” Helmut 2014-03-11 17:22
- Non-informative “profiles” fno 2014-03-11 15:52
- Non-informative “profiles” Helmut 2014-03-11 14:04
- Non-informative “profiles” Ohlbe 2014-03-11 13:47
- Non-informative “profiles” Helmut 2014-03-11 13:29