Three-way crossover (WinNonlin) [Design Issues]
Dear Nirali!
Again, we obtain only pairwise comparisons, not simultaneous ones.
Not quite, but very close.
If you run the BE wizard (R1=reference), you will get
(1a) T vs. R1, and
(1b) R2 vs. R1.
You have to run the BE wizard again (this time with R2 as reference), getting
(2a) T vs. R2, and
(2b) R1 vs. R2.
In order to get comparisons of T=R1 and T=R2, you have to run the wizard twice (results 1a and 2a), omitting 1b/2b. Of course PE and CL of 2b=1/1b.
Yes this is correct; in this case only one run of the BE wizard is necessary, getting:
(1a) T1 vs. R, and
(1b) T2 vs. R.
❝ Actully, I was under impression that WinNonlin is using the hypo:
❝ "MEAN(Test1)=MEAN(Test2)=MEAN(Ref)".
Again, we obtain only pairwise comparisons, not simultaneous ones.
❝ (A) suppose we have two REFERENCES and single TEST [R1, R2, T]for threeway comparison: if we select R1 as REFERENCE, WNL will calculate BE with hypo:
❝ (1) R1=T and (2) R1=R2.
Not quite, but very close.
If you run the BE wizard (R1=reference), you will get
(1a) T vs. R1, and
(1b) R2 vs. R1.
You have to run the BE wizard again (this time with R2 as reference), getting
(2a) T vs. R2, and
(2b) R1 vs. R2.
In order to get comparisons of T=R1 and T=R2, you have to run the wizard twice (results 1a and 2a), omitting 1b/2b. Of course PE and CL of 2b=1/1b.
❝ same way,
❝ (B) for two TEST and single REFERENCE [T1, T2, R]: if we select R as standard, hypo will be: (1) R=T1 and (2)R=T2
Yes this is correct; in this case only one run of the BE wizard is necessary, getting:
(1a) T1 vs. R, and
(1b) T2 vs. R.
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