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Three-way crossover (WinNonlin) [Design Issues]

posted by Helmut  – Vienna, Austria, 2007-09-25 15:15 (6051 d 04:38 ago) – Posting: # 1132
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Dear Nirali!

❝ Actully, I was under impression that WinNonlin is using the hypo:

❝ "MEAN(Test1)=MEAN(Test2)=MEAN(Ref)".

Again, we obtain only pairwise comparisons, not simultaneous ones.

❝ (A) suppose we have two REFERENCES and single TEST [R1, R2, T]for threeway comparison: if we select R1 as REFERENCE, WNL will calculate BE with hypo:

❝ (1) R1=T and (2) R1=R2.

Not quite, but very close.
If you run the BE wizard (R₁=reference), you will get
(1a) T vs. R₁, and
(1b) R₂ vs. R₁.
You have to run the BE wizard again (this time with R₂ as reference), getting
(2a) T vs. R₂, and
(2b) R₁ vs. R₂.
In order to get comparisons of T=R₁ and T=R₂, you have to run the wizard twice (results 1a and 2a), omitting 1b/2b. Of course PE and CL of 2b=1/1b.

❝ same way,

❝ (B) for two TEST and single REFERENCE [T1, T2, R]: if we select R as standard, hypo will be: (1) R=T1 and (2)R=T2

Yes this is correct; in this case only one run of the BE wizard is necessary, getting:
(1a) T₁ vs. R, and
(1b) T₂ vs. R.

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