AUCextrap more than 20% [Study Assessment]
❝ […] ER formulation for USFDA. The results are very good for the Cmax and AUCinf but the study fails marginally in lower CI in AUCt that is 79.28. The failure in this study is due to the presence of two outlier in the whole study. If we remove these outliers the study qualify the BE criteria for all the three parameters. But as we all know that USFDA don’t encourage the outliers test and its exclusion from the study.
❝ […] The only option is if we remove the AUCt and AUCinf from the from two subjects whose %AUCextrap value is more than 20% and keeping Cmax and Tmax untouched. Our study qualifies the BE criteria of 80-125%.
Some points:
- FDA doesn’t have a 20% residual area criterion (see the
guidance, p22) – that’s EMA-speak. Even for EMA you must not exclude subjects with higher residual areas (BE GL Section 4.1.8, p14).
- You are right about FDA’s thinking about ‘outliers’. BTW, did these two subjects really qualify by a statistical test or was your criterion >20% res. AUC?
- You can try to start an argument based on the fact that the formulation was ER. In BE we are interested in comparing the absorption (= formulation + drug specific) not distribution/elimination (= drug specific). With ER the slowest phase might be absorption – not elimination. This is true once you crossed flip-flop PK (ka = kel). Even for ka > kel the apparent (!) elimination will be contaminated by absorption. Compare half lives of your study with literature data of immediate release formulations. Likely your half lives are longer. Therefore, AUC∞ is a more relevant metric for extent of absorption than AUCt.
- Your sample size was terribly high given the CVs of 25–27%…
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