SD vs. MD, partial AUCs [Regulatives / Guidelines]
Dear all,
some comments on this week’s workshop in Bonn.
1. SD vs. MD
Status:
As Alfredo García-Arieta pointed out “The 10% residual AUC are arbitrary; we could have used 20% or 5% as well.” OK, Canada is successfully applying the 20% for more than two decades [sic] now…
I love arbitrary values.
The suggested procedure starting with the SD study is as following:If the MD study passes with the conventional metrics (AUCτ, Cmax, Cmin), the fact that ‘shape’ metric(s) failed in SD will not lead to rejection of the application (rationale: BE demonstrated with conventional metrics both in SD and MD). Now it is up to us to challenge the 90% criterion (empiric evidence from Canada). Furthermore, BE of Cτ makes sense, IMHO. Will be a tough job to convince Alfredo García-Arieta claiming: “I don’t believe in simulations.”
He was asked how achievement of steady state can be demonstrated and whether a statistical test is required. The answer was “A test is not expected. Reporting of pre-dose concentrations and plots are sufficient.” All other members of the drafting party nodded in agreement.
2. partialAUC (if applicable)
Status:
Presentations of the workshop will be available for some limited time in a couple of weeks at EUFEPS’ website.
some comments on this week’s workshop in Bonn.
»The BfArM still sleeping at 5 a.m.«
1. SD vs. MD
Status:
- The U.S. FDA generally does not require MD studies (exception: studies in patients under therapy due to unacceptable safety profile in healthy subjects).
- Japan’s NIHS requires SD studies, although “multiple dose studies may be employed for drugs which are repeatedly administered to patients.”
- Brazil’s ANVISA does not require MD studies.
- Canada’s HPFB/TGD requires MD studies only if substantial accumulation is expected, i.e.,
AUCt > 80% AUC∞.
- The EMA currently requires MD additionally to SD in all cases.
- According to the draft MD studies might be waived under certain circumstances:
- AUCt > 90% AUC∞ and
- BE demonstrated in SD for additional PK metrics, e.g., pAUCs (Cτ under discussion).
As Alfredo García-Arieta pointed out “The 10% residual AUC are arbitrary; we could have used 20% or 5% as well.” OK, Canada is successfully applying the 20% for more than two decades [sic] now…
I love arbitrary values.
The suggested procedure starting with the SD study is as following:
- If AUCt ≤ 90% AUC∞ target metrics are AUC∞, AUCt, and Cmax. Whether AUC∞ is primary for controlled release and AUCt for delayed release is under discussion. pAUCs for multiphasic profiles.
MD mandatory (waiving criterion not fulfilled).
- If AUCt > 90% AUC∞ target metrics as above + additional metrics describing the shape of profiles (pAUCs, t75%?).
- If additional metric(s) pass BE, a MD study might be waived.
- If the additional metric(s) fail, a MD study is required.
He was asked how achievement of steady state can be demonstrated and whether a statistical test is required. The answer was “A test is not expected. Reporting of pre-dose concentrations and plots are sufficient.” All other members of the drafting party nodded in agreement.
2. partialAUC (if applicable)
Status:
- The U.S. FDA requires pAUCTmax,ref as a measure of early exposure if clinically relevant. Tmax,ref is the population (‽) median. Conventional acceptance range.
- The U.S. FDA requires pAUCs in some product-specific guidances (methylphenidate: ER capsules, ER tablets; zolpidem ER tablets). The truncation time point ‘T’ is a priori set based on PD and might be different for fasting/fed or applicable to one state only. Example: MPH (3 h fasting, 4 h fed), zolpidem (1.5 h fasting only).
Required metrics: AUC0-T, AUCT-t, AUC0-∞, and Cmax; conventional acceptance range.
- HPFB/TGD requires pAUCTmax,ref as a measure of early exposure if clinically relevant. Tmax,ref is defined as the individual’s value. Relative mean within the conventional acceptance range (no CI).
- EMA Q&A Ref.4 (02/2012): Pre-specified truncation time point. AUC0-T, AUCT-t, Cmax,0-T, Cmax,T-t; conventional acceptance range.
- MR draft (lines 787–792): Pre-specified truncation time point. AUC0-t, AUC0-∞, Cmax, tmax, AUC0-T, AUCT-t, Cmax,0-T, Cmax,T-t, tmax,0-T, tmax,T-t. Yippee! Ten characteristics. That’s a lot. IMHO, only descriptive.
Statistical evaluation (lines 800–805): AUC0-t, AUC0-∞, Cmax, AUC0-T, AUCT-t; conventional acceptance range or scaling (lines 807–810).
Presentations of the workshop will be available for some limited time in a couple of weeks at EUFEPS’ website.
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Complete thread:
- Draft EMA MR formulations GL published! Ohlbe 2013-03-15 12:10 [Regulatives / Guidelines]
- Housekeeping suggestions Helmut 2013-03-15 13:28
- Scaling for pAUCs Helmut 2013-03-15 14:19
- Draft EMA MR formulations GL published! ioanam 2013-03-30 17:54
- Topicals → 1995 NfG Helmut 2013-03-30 22:51
- Topicals, generic ElMaestro 2013-03-31 19:26
- Topicals, generic ioanam 2013-04-01 07:51
- Topicals, generic The Outlaw Torn 2013-04-01 08:03
- Topicals, generic ioanam 2013-04-01 07:51
- Clarity on waiving multiple dose study Tina 2013-05-15 14:19
- Hey, it is just a draft! Helmut 2013-05-17 18:49
- Critical review of García-Arieta et al. (2012) Helmut 2013-06-29 19:44
- Hey, it is just a draft! Helmut 2013-05-17 18:49
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