Science vs. (EMA) GL aka PK primer [Regulatives / Guidelines]
replying myself to clarify things. Starter: Scheerans et al. (2008).1 tmax in a monoexponential model is the root of the first derivative of the concentration-time curve and given by
\(\small{t_{max}=\log(k_a / k_{el}) / (k_a-k_{el})}\)
The inflection point tinpt where the sign of the curvature changes (or the tangent moves from above to below the curve) is the root of the second derivative and given by\(\small{t_{inpt}=2\cdot \log(k_a / k_{el}) / (k_a-k_{el})}\)
If you want to play around yourself I suggest to convert the Bateman-function (with volume, fraction absorbed, and rate constants) to a sum of exponentials, i.e.,\(\small{f(x)=A(e^{-k_{el}\cdot x}-e^{-k_a\cdot x})}\).
The first and second derivatives are\(\small{f'(x)=A(-k_{el}\cdot e^{-k_{el}\cdot x}+k_a\cdot e^{-k_a\cdot x})}\) and
\(\small{f''(x)=A(k{_{el}}^{2}\cdot e^{-k_{el}\cdot x}-k_{a}^{2}\cdot e^{-k_a\cdot x})}\).
\(\small{\%\; abs = 100(1-e^{-k_a \cdot x})}\)
AUC in the interval [0, a] is given as the definite integral of ƒ(x) by\(\small{A \left ( (e^{k_a \cdot a}-1)/k_a - (e^{k_{el}\cdot a}-1)/k_{el} \right )}\)
At tmax 75% are absorbed (AUCt/AUC∞ 25%) and at tinpt already 93.75% (AUCt/AUC∞ 56.25%). When do we have a ratio of 80%? At 3.244 (where 98.89% are absorbed). That’s a very, very conservative value. Note that tinpt equals four absorption half-lives (alternative method for the calculation of % absorbed: 100 – 100/24·t½a = 93.75%). If one wants to be more conservative and follow the logic of the GL (wash-out, saturation to steady state) and use five half-lives one could stop at 2.5.
tlast % abs % AUC∞
1.0 = tmax 75.00 25.00
2.0 = tinpt 93.75 56.25
2.161 95.00 60.28
2.5 = 5×t½a 96.88 67.77
3.244 98.89 80.00
3.322 99.00 81.00
IMHO, the cut-off of 80% is scientifically not justified for monoexponential models (including ones with a lag-time: homework). Would only make sense if we would use AUCs corrected by kel,4 which seems not to be acceptable by EMA (at least). It’s strange to judge the validity of a study based on elimination rather than essentially complete absorption.
Unfortunately it is not that easy for multicompartimental models – or even worse – profiles with multiple peaks, though absorption will follow the same time course. MR (CR in particular) is another cup of tea. We might be in flip-flop limbo and personally I would not use AUCt as the main metric at all. I’m curious what the draft MR GL will tell us… I will propose AUC∞ with an extrapolated area of well below 20%.
@Ratnakar: If you want help it would be a good idea to answer all of the questions in my previous post (see the Forum’s policy).
- Scheerans C, Derendorf H, Kloft C. Proposal for a Standardised Identification of the Mono-Exponential Terminal Phase for Orally Administered Drugs. Biopharm Drug Dispos. 2008;29:145–57. doi:10.1002/bdd.596.
- Midha KK, Hubbard JW, Rawson MJ. Retrospective evaluation of relative extent of absorption by the use of partial areas under plasma concentration versus time curves in bioequivalence studies on conventional release products. Europ J Pharm Sci. 1996;4:381–4. doi:10.1016/0928-0987(95)00166-2.
- Midha KK, Hubbard JW, Rawson MJ, Gavalas L. The application of partial areas in assessment of rate and extent of absorption in bioequivalence studies of conventional release products: Experimental evidence. Europ J Pharm Sci. 1994;2(5–6):351–63. doi:10.1016/0928-0987(94)00062-X.
- Abdallah HY. An Area Correction Method To Reduce Intrasubject Variability In Bioequivalence Studies. J Pharm Pharmaceut Sci. 1998;1(2):60–5. free resource.
- Note that the FDA – although both AUCt and AUC∞ are required – doesn’t have such a cut-off.
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- Gedankenexperiment Helmut 2020-06-07 12:41
- Carrot and whip Astea 2020-06-06 21:11
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