Cmin (story continued) [NCA / SHAM]
I want to share with you some experiences with Cmin. Introduction here, some more stuff there. From our simulations we expected CVs of AUCτ ≈7%, Cmax ≈15%, Cmin ≈75%. The study was BE in the first stage; we got CVs of 4.23% (AUCτ), 8.54% (Cmax), and 51.6% (Clast).
The IR GL states:
In multiple-dose studies, the pre-dose sample should be taken immediately before (within 5 minutes) dosing and the last sample is recommended to be taken within 10 minutes of the nominal time for the dosage interval to ensure an accurate determination of AUC(0-τ).
What is written in the GL about time deviations is even more crucial if Cmin is concerned. We took pre-dose samples 5 minutes prior to administration – which meant also in steady state (OAD) at 23:55 hours post dose instead of 24 hours. We improved the analytical method to a calibration range of 1:510, but this a clearly the end taking the detector response into account. We could go further down with LLOQ by a factor of 10 (to 5 pg/mL), but then we wouldn’t be able to run all samples of a subject in a single batch (see draft GL):It is advised to analyse all samples of one subject together in one analytical run to reduce the variability in outcome.
In the protocol we stated to correct for time deviations in the following way: The concentration at t=0 was linear interpolated between t=-5 min and the first measured concentration (30 min). We calculated Cmin,τ = Ctrough = Clast·e-λz(τ–tlast) (EMA: „By Cmin,ss we mean the concentration at the end of the dosage interval, i.e. Ctrough.”). Note that if tlast = τ no correction is done, since τ–tlast = 0 and e0 = 1; therefore Cmin,τ = Clast.
Now for the more interesting part: Although we didn’t expect that, in 9% of cases at τ the concentration was below the LLOQ. By using Clast in these subjects we are actually comparing C16 to C24 – which due to the short half life of 2–3 hours is a nightmare (see above for the CV). If we use the estimated Ctrough, the CV decreases substantially. To give you an idea:
metric PE 90% CI CVintra
Clast 86.16 63.67 116.58 51.6
Ctrough 101.42 86.06 119.53 26.8
Unbiased assessment of results from randomised studies requires that all subjects are observed and treated according to the same rules. These rules should be independent from treatment or outcome.
The protocol was approved by the BfArM (we mentioned both metrics and argued for not assessing Cmin for bioequivalence due to ethical reasons). According to current (!) thinking of EMA, multiple dose studies of MR product will not be required any more if no accumulation occurs (single dose AUCt/AUC∞ >80%), but the issue with missing samples applies to steady state studies after substantial accumulation – though to a lesser degree – as well.
- AUCτ, Cmax, AUC0-4, AUC4-24, Cmax,0-4, Cmax,4-24, %PTF, MRTτ; HVD and t75% within ±7%.
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- Cmin (story continued)Helmut 2011-06-22 17:03 [NCA / SHAM]
- Cmin (story continued) Marcel 2011-09-15 10:21
- Cmin (story continued) Helmut 2011-09-15 14:37
- Cmin (story continued) Marcel 2011-09-16 08:01
- Cmin (cave: lengthy post) Helmut 2011-09-16 13:26
- Cmin (cave: lengthy post) Marcel 2011-09-20 08:33
- Cmin no more? Helmut 2011-09-20 10:08
- perspective from the PD world ElMaestro 2011-09-20 10:01
- perspective from the PD world Helmut 2011-09-20 10:20
- Cmin (cave: lengthy post) Marcel 2011-09-20 08:33
- Cmin (cave: lengthy post) Helmut 2011-09-16 13:26
- Cmin (story continued) Marcel 2011-09-16 08:01
- Cmin (story continued) Helmut 2011-09-15 14:37
- Cmin (story continued) Marcel 2011-09-15 10:21