Outlier tests: forget it! [Bioanalytics]
Dear Yuvraj!
Again: there’s no need for a formal outlier test. Reading the guidance you would have noticed that a QCs sample may be excluded, if:
Consider a simple dataset (n=3; that’s the minimum to do statistics I would say…):
Grubbs-test:
Dixon-test:
Henning-test:
Robust:
Now what? You may exclude the value according to the guidance, but none of the tests would support that. Not even a “zero” result for QC1 would give you a significant result. BTW, you may exclude values, but you don’t have to. In the example most people wouldn’t do so, because both accuracy and precision are within limits.
Forget it.
Again: there’s no need for a formal outlier test. Reading the guidance you would have noticed that a QCs sample may be excluded, if:
- Inaccuracy > ±15%
- Precison (CV) > ±15%
- not more than ⅔ of QCs
- not more than 50% at the same level
Consider a simple dataset (n=3; that’s the minimum to do statistics I would say…):
QC1 80% (suspected outlier; accuracy <85%)QC2 95%
QC3 105%
x 98.3% (acceptable: within 100±15%)SD 12.6%
CV 13.5% (acceptable: <15%)Grubbs-test:
1.060<1.155, p≥0.05Dixon-test:
0.6<0.941, p≥0.05Henning-test:
13.33<37.75, no outlierRobust:
no outlierNow what? You may exclude the value according to the guidance, but none of the tests would support that. Not even a “zero” result for QC1 would give you a significant result. BTW, you may exclude values, but you don’t have to. In the example most people wouldn’t do so, because both accuracy and precision are within limits.
Forget it.
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Complete thread:
- outliers test for QC sample mathews 2007-10-11 07:58
- outliers test - but not for QCs! Helmut 2007-10-11 15:31
- Outlier test - but not for QC's yuvrajkatkar 2010-01-19 08:49
- Outlier test - but not for QC's H_Rotter 2010-01-19 12:55
- Outlier tests: forget it!Helmut 2010-01-19 17:36
- Outlier tests: forget it! Ohlbe 2010-01-19 19:00
- Outlier tests: forget it! Helmut 2010-01-19 19:16
- Outlier tests: forget it! Ohlbe 2010-01-19 21:00
- QCs vs. calibrators Helmut 2010-01-19 21:49
- QCs vs. calibrators Ohlbe 2010-01-20 19:01
- QCs vs. calibrators Helmut 2010-01-20 19:26
- QCs vs. calibrators Ohlbe 2010-01-20 19:52
- QCs vs. calibrators Helmut 2010-01-20 19:26
- QCs vs. calibrators Ohlbe 2010-01-20 19:01
- Two thirds of QCs H_Rotter 2010-01-20 16:21
- Two thirds of QCs Ohlbe 2010-01-20 18:49
- Outlier tests: forget it!....what if.... moblak 2010-01-25 10:04
- Outlier tests: forget it!....what if.... Ohlbe 2010-01-25 23:19
- QCs vs. calibrators Helmut 2010-01-19 21:49
- Outlier tests: forget it! Ohlbe 2010-01-19 21:00
- Outlier tests: forget it! Helmut 2010-01-19 19:16
- Outlier tests: forget it! Ohlbe 2010-01-19 19:00
- Outlier test - but not for QC's yuvrajkatkar 2010-01-19 08:49
- outliers test - but not for QCs! Helmut 2007-10-11 15:31
