Post hoc power & other things… [Design Issues]
Dear Ken!
Post hoc power is completely irrelevant in bioequivalence. Either you demonstrated BE or not. Full
. Unfortunately the Malaysian authority asks for post hoc power sometimes (or always?). It’s time for them to learn. 
THX! Would you be so kind to post a link once the GL is published?
The wording of the Q&A document is nonsense, whereas the 2004 GL is correct:
↑ Would require more than the entire population of Asia (4.26 billions).
❝ Do you mean even we can not achieve the power (>80%) as long as BE is proven ??? Am I correct?
Post hoc power is completely irrelevant in bioequivalence. Either you demonstrated BE or not. Full
. Unfortunately the Malaysian authority asks for post hoc power sometimes (or always?). It’s time for them to learn. 
❝ Nevertheless, the 2013 ASEAN Guideline on BA/BE will be out soon.
THX! Would you be so kind to post a link once the GL is published?
❝ ❝ If one expects a deviation of ±20% (c) the samples size has to be infinity even for a CV of zero.
Should read “ie ±5%”.
❝
❝ I am sorry. Could you please kindly elaborate the last sentence. "If one expects a deviation of ±20%, the samples size has to be infinity even for a CV of zero. Should read “ie ±5%".
The wording of the Q&A document is nonsense, whereas the 2004 GL is correct:
The number of subjects required is determined by
- the error variance associated with the primary characteristic to be studied as estimated from a pilot experiment, from previous studies or from published data,
- the significance level desired,
- the expected deviation from the reference product compatible with bioequivalence (delta, ie percentage difference from 100 %) and
- the required power.
library(PowerTOST)
sampleN.TOST(CV=0.05, theta0=0.8)
+++++++++++ Equivalence test - TOST +++++++++++
Sample size estimation
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Study design: 2x2 crossover
Error: Null ratio 0.8 not between margins 0.8 / 1.25!
sampleN.TOST(CV=0.05, theta0=0.8000021)
+++++++++++ Equivalence test - TOST +++++++++++
Sample size estimation
-----------------------------------------------
Study design: 2x2 crossover
log-transformed data (multiplicative model)
alpha = 0.05, target power = 0.8
BE margins = 0.8 ... 1.25
Null (true) ratio = 0.8000021, CV = 0.05
Sample size (total)
n power
4480622660 0.800000↑ Would require more than the entire population of Asia (4.26 billions).
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