dropping subject if auc/aucinf is < 80% [Regulatives / Guidelines]
Hi John,
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Ha-ha! Of course some “clever” CROs love to exclude subjects → decreased power → study fails → perform a new study → earn more money…
Is this an IR formulation? If yes, absorption is essentially completed at 2–4 times tmax. For the FDA you can exclude AUC∞ and go ahead with AUCt (though I don’t think FDA requires that; the ≤20% residual area is EMA-style and not mentioned in any of FDA’s guidances). I would never exclude all data of a subject. At least I would keep the subject’s Cmax – which is due to its higher variability the win-loose metric anyhow.
If this is an extended release formulation, AUC∞ is more important than AUCt since we may run into flip-flop PK and want to compare absorption. However, if you opt for exclusion of AUC, still keep Cmax.
Just for completeness, EMA’s GL:
❝ I was reading a protocol last week and see this "subject data to be excluded from BE stats if auc/aucinf > 20%". Can one do that at all??
<nitpicking>
You mean the extrapolated part = 100×(AUC∞–AUCt)/AUC∞ >20% or
the covered part = 100×AUCt/AUC∞ <80%. 
Ha-ha! Of course some “clever” CROs love to exclude subjects → decreased power → study fails → perform a new study → earn more money…
Is this an IR formulation? If yes, absorption is essentially completed at 2–4 times tmax. For the FDA you can exclude AUC∞ and go ahead with AUCt (though I don’t think FDA requires that; the ≤20% residual area is EMA-style and not mentioned in any of FDA’s guidances). I would never exclude all data of a subject. At least I would keep the subject’s Cmax – which is due to its higher variability the win-loose metric anyhow.
If this is an extended release formulation, AUC∞ is more important than AUCt since we may run into flip-flop PK and want to compare absorption. However, if you opt for exclusion of AUC, still keep Cmax.
Just for completeness, EMA’s GL:
[…] AUC(0-t) should cover at least 80% of AUC(0-∞). Subjects should not be excluded from the statistical analysis if AUC(0-t) covers less than 80% of AUC(0-∞), but if the percentage is less than 80% in more than 20% of the observations then the validity of the study may need to be discussed.
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Complete thread:
- dropping subject if auc/aucinf is > 20% jag009 2013-06-26 14:30
- dropping subject if auc/aucinf is < 80%Helmut 2013-06-26 16:33
- dropping subject if auc/aucinf is < 80% jag009 2013-06-26 17:31
- Who’s the boss? Helmut 2013-06-26 17:39
- Who’s the boss? jag009 2013-06-26 17:41
- Who’s the boss? Helmut 2013-06-26 17:52
- Who’s the boss? jag009 2013-06-26 20:16
- Who’s the boss? Helmut 2013-06-26 17:52
- Who’s the boss? jag009 2013-06-26 17:41
- Who’s the boss? Helmut 2013-06-26 17:39
- dropping subject if auc/aucinf is < 80% jag009 2013-06-26 17:31
- dropping subject if auc/aucinf is < 80%Helmut 2013-06-26 16:33
