Outlier detection in BE [Outliers]
❝ What is an outlier?
❝ To me, an outlier is a point whose presence cannot credibly be
❝ accounted for by random scatter or natural variation, but whose presence
❝ has another and identified explanation.
Agree.
❝ To me, an outlier is not just a point that somehow looks, smells and feels
❝ different from the other points.
Agree. That’s why I called for statistics. Nice to sit here in Brussels – the beer looks, smells and tastes different from Vienna’s. No statistics needed here (not outliers, but a different sample).
❝ I am not a big fan of the practice of running some sort of outlier
❝ detection test and then, solely on basis of statistics, deeming this or
❝ that point an outlier.
Did I say that? I said first you have to know that there is one – based on some objective method of detection – and then look for a cause.
❝ Do slow metabolisers cause outliers, if their phenotype occurs in say 0.1%
❝ of the population? No, because the data points they cause represent natural
❝ but rare variation.
Sure. There’s even a term for that type of outlier: concordant outlier – nothing to worry about in BE, but may be of interest (see the end of this post for a surprising example).
❝ Here and there one can observe the odd data point space that is just not a
❝ credible (credible in this sentence is not quantitative) representation of
❝ a model …
Yes. That’s a discordant outlier. Affects BE. All the reasons I have given in my last post may be applicable…
❝ … and some scatter and where there really is no identified source of
❝ the issue.
… or the mysterious S × F interaction.
❝ That's not an outright outlier, but a matter for an auditor or inspector
❝ to look into, and it should in my opinion remain so unless a plausible
❝ reason can be identified.
Again: You have to be suspicious first in order to start a search. I would prefer to base my strategy on a pre-defined method rather than saying: Oops, looks, smells and feels strange…
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- Men - Women? d_labes 2010-04-15 08:13
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- Outlier detection in BEHelmut 2010-04-14 20:00
- Outlier detection in BE ElMaestro 2010-04-14 19:31
- Outlier detection in BE Helmut 2010-04-14 19:11
- Outlier detection in BE rasheed 2010-04-14 12:57