Carved in stone? [Study Assessment]
Hi Sam,
No idea.
Really? If your ratio and CV are just 0.02% (!!) worse, your power would already be <80%. Remember that outcomes of pilot studies are estimates, not set in stone. Planing for 80% power – hoping for exactly matching the pilot and face not a single drop-out in such a large study – is gambling as well.*
❝ Please suggest some test which we can apply for the exclusion of AUCt parameter for only two subjects.
No idea.
❝ ❝ Can you elaborate? With T/R of 84% and a CV of 26% you would have needed 342 (!) subjects to obtain 80% power (and still 260 for 70% power – which is the lowest any serious IEC should accept, IMHO). Was your target power only 46% – running another “casino-type” study? Bad.
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❝ I Really apologize for the mistake, the ratio is 84.71 and CV for the pilot study is 19.11.
Really? If your ratio and CV are just 0.02% (!!) worse, your power would already be <80%. Remember that outcomes of pilot studies are estimates, not set in stone. Planing for 80% power – hoping for exactly matching the pilot and face not a single drop-out in such a large study – is gambling as well.*
- In the pivotal study PE ↓ 83.82%, CV ↑ 27%, and you had 14 drop-outs…
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- AUCextrap more than 20% sam 2013-08-01 11:21
- AUCextrap more than 20% ElMaestro 2013-08-01 11:39
- AUCextrap more than 20% sam 2013-08-01 12:01
- AUCextrap more than 20% Helmut 2013-08-01 12:52
- AUCextrap more than 20% sam 2013-08-01 12:01
- forced BE d_labes 2013-08-01 11:59
- Gambling ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦ Helmut 2013-08-01 13:31
- AUCextrap more than 20% ElMaestro 2013-08-01 11:39
- AUCextrap more than 20% sam 2013-08-01 11:21
- AUCextrap more than 20% Helmut 2013-08-01 12:32
- AUCextrap more than 20% sam 2013-08-01 12:55
- 46% power in study planning? Helmut 2013-08-01 13:18
- 46% power in study planning? sam 2013-08-01 13:40
- 46% power in study planning? jag009 2013-08-01 20:04
- Re-dosing Helmut 2013-08-02 03:32
- 46% power in study planning? sam 2013-08-02 07:00
- Carved in stone?Helmut 2013-08-02 03:22
- Carved in stone? sam 2013-08-02 07:02
- Carved in stone? luvblooms 2013-08-02 08:37
- Carved in stone? sam 2013-08-02 09:01
- Ethics (again) Helmut 2013-08-02 14:53
- Update jag009 2013-08-02 17:25
- Update Helmut 2013-08-02 18:11
- Update jag009 2013-08-02 20:11
- Outliers (CAN) Helmut 2013-08-02 20:56
- Outliers (CAN) jag009 2013-08-02 22:23
- OT: Expert Helmut 2013-08-03 10:11
- Outliers (CAN) jag009 2013-08-02 22:23
- Outliers (CAN) Helmut 2013-08-02 20:56
- Update jag009 2013-08-02 22:29
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- Update luvblooms 2013-08-05 06:02
- Update jag009 2013-08-05 20:14
- Update Helmut 2013-08-02 18:11
- Update jag009 2013-08-02 17:25
- Ethics (again) Helmut 2013-08-02 14:53
- Carved in stone? sam 2013-08-02 09:01
- Carved in stone? luvblooms 2013-08-02 08:37
- Carved in stone? sam 2013-08-02 07:02
- 46% power in study planning? jag009 2013-08-01 20:04
- 46% power in study planning? sam 2013-08-01 13:40
- 46% power in study planning? Helmut 2013-08-01 13:18
- AUCextrap more than 20% sam 2013-08-01 12:55
- AUCextrap more than 20% ElMaestro 2013-08-01 10:29