PTF is another story [NCA / SHAM]
Dear D. Labes!
Sounds plausible. But only if the sd would stay constant. I would guess that the sd also decreases.
Remember the good old days of 'the flatter is better'?
Imagine two formulations (IR, MR) in steady state, AUC 2400. We get e.g.:
I would guess that the variability of %PTF of the MR is lower, despite the lower value itself. But this assumption depends mainly on the variability of Cmin, which should be lower if moving upwards from the critical zone. The rest is silence (or the law of error propagation).
Right. I had a conversation with Regulator XY,
❝ The study was long ago. So I don't remember exactly what was going on. But I have occasionally found that the variability of PTF was high if PTF was low. In a additive model this makes immediately sense:
❝ CV=sd/Mean
❝ is increasing if the mean is decreasing.
Sounds plausible. But only if the sd would stay constant. I would guess that the sd also decreases.
Remember the good old days of 'the flatter is better'?
Imagine two formulations (IR, MR) in steady state, AUC 2400. We get e.g.:
Cmax Cmin %PTF
IR 100 10 90
MR 60 40 20
I would guess that the variability of %PTF of the MR is lower, despite the lower value itself. But this assumption depends mainly on the variability of Cmin, which should be lower if moving upwards from the critical zone. The rest is silence (or the law of error propagation).
❝ BTW: For me it's questionable if a logarithmic transformation could and should be applied for this metric (also I do because of regulators).
Right. I had a conversation with Regulator XY,
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where he expressed also strong doubts about the distributional assumption. In our conversation we talked about Cmax/AUC in SD. We assume both AUC and Cmax follow lognormal - so what's the distribution of the ratio of two lognormal distributions? The same holds for %PTF (just see what happens if no accumulation occurs and Cmin=0). On the other hand Martin (who is on the contrary to myself a professional statistician) told me that this is no problem. He talked about monotonous transformations, but a little bit too much beer was involved that evening... 
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