Minimum AIC?! [NCA / SHAM]
Dear Ohlbe!
Minimum AIC is only useful in selecting between rival models (e.g., in PK 1 ↔ 2 compartments, in PD simple Emax ↔ sigmoidal Emax).
For the example we get…
… which would suggest n=3 as the ‘best’!
Looking at the definition of AIC
it’s clear that since in estimating lambdaz the number of estimated parameters
AIC is a quite comfortable in compartmental modeling (as compared to the alternative F-test, because no calculations are needed), but in the given problem it does not help.
At least not in the estimation of lambdaz; strange enough there's a parameter ‘G’ in the output, which is neither described in the online-help nor the manual (v4.1.1, 2007).
I will try to find out the next days, what this parameter might be…
❝ What about Akaike's criterion ?
Minimum AIC is only useful in selecting between rival models (e.g., in PK 1 ↔ 2 compartments, in PD simple Emax ↔ sigmoidal Emax).
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For the example we get…
+-----+---------+---------+---------+---------+
| n | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |
+-----+---------+---------+---------+---------+
| AIC | 7.7894 | 12.3142 | 18.3473 | 20.9395 |
+-----+---------+---------+---------+---------+
… which would suggest n=3 as the ‘best’!
Looking at the definition of AIC
AIC = n × ln (SSQ) + 2p
it’s clear that since in estimating lambdaz the number of estimated parameters
p
is fixed to 2 (intercept, slope) AIC essentially reduces to a transformation of the residual sum of squares times the number of data points.AIC is a quite comfortable in compartmental modeling (as compared to the alternative F-test, because no calculations are needed), but in the given problem it does not help.
❝ I think Kinetica uses it, right ?
At least not in the estimation of lambdaz; strange enough there's a parameter ‘G’ in the output, which is neither described in the online-help nor the manual (v4.1.1, 2007).
I will try to find out the next days, what this parameter might be…

- Yamaoka K, Nakagawa T and T Uno
Application of Akaike's Information Criterion (AIC) in the Evaluation of Linear Pharmacokinetic Equations
J Pharmacokin Biopharm 6/2, 165–75 (1978)
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- Methods for calculation of half lives Ohlbe 2008-02-02 23:00
- Minimum AIC?!Helmut 2008-02-03 13:49
- G (Kinetica) = R²adj (WinNonlin) Helmut 2008-02-04 01:12
- Minimum AIC?!Helmut 2008-02-03 13:49
- Methods for calculation of half lives d_labes 2008-02-04 16:43
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- Methods for calculation of half lives Ohlbe 2008-02-02 23:00
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- TTT method Helmut 2008-05-16 17:21
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- TTT method hiren379 2012-07-11 11:44
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- TTT method hiren379 2012-07-11 12:53
- TTT method Ohlbe 2012-07-11 12:16
- TTT method hiren379 2012-07-11 11:44
- TTT method Ohlbe 2012-07-11 11:37
- TTT method hiren379 2012-07-11 11:11
- TTT method d_labes 2008-05-23 15:43
- TTT method Helmut 2008-05-16 17:21
- TTT method d_labes 2008-05-16 09:12
- Methods for calculation of half lives Helmut 2008-02-01 16:59