Which book? [RSABE / ABEL]
Dear Helmut and all,
SAS results correspond with your Phoenix-results:
„Confidence limit”-Calculation, like Endrenyi/Tothfalusi call it in SAS:
Small difference, but can be critical;
Now my EXCEL Sheet (I know, that EXCEl has bad reputation, but +-*/² and sqrt are exact):
Unfortunately I get a different value for the variance of the differences of the pooled formulation data:
MSE=0.165897781 in EXCEL and
0.1662119811 from SAS, if I take the „stderr“-value from „iout2“ to calculate MSE using: MSE=stderr²*69;
(accordingly: SE in EXCEL: 0.0490338, in SAS 0.49080)
But, if I look at the residual from „iout1“ (please see SAS program of FDA):
exactly the result of my EXCEL calculation appears: residual=0.1658977
However the stderr from iout2 is used in SAS for further assessment;
results from EXCEL:
My knowledge in SAS is not enough, to draw the formula somewhere.
Can someone give me a hint on the reason for the 2 different variability results, and may be a comparison of the formulas?
thanks a lot
FI
SAS results correspond with your Phoenix-results:
Diff of ln(means): 0.143765
SE: 0.049080
sWR 0.044645
point estimate 1.15461
x 0.018260
y -0.15879
boundx 0.050908
boundy -0.12299
theta² (0.25) 0.79669
theta 0.892574
critbound -0.092076
<=0, RSABE demonstrated„Confidence limit”-Calculation, like Endrenyi/Tothfalusi call it in SAS:
Em (should be x…) 0.020668
Es (=-y) 0.15879
Cm (=boundx) 0.050908
Cs (=-boundy) 0.12299
Lm 0.001065889
Ls 0.001281992
CL -0.091257
Small difference, but can be critical;
Now my EXCEL Sheet (I know, that EXCEl has bad reputation, but +-*/² and sqrt are exact):
Unfortunately I get a different value for the variance of the differences of the pooled formulation data:
MSE=0.165897781 in EXCEL and
0.1662119811 from SAS, if I take the „stderr“-value from „iout2“ to calculate MSE using: MSE=stderr²*69;
(accordingly: SE in EXCEL: 0.0490338, in SAS 0.49080)
But, if I look at the residual from „iout1“ (please see SAS program of FDA):
exactly the result of my EXCEL calculation appears: residual=0.1658977

However the stderr from iout2 is used in SAS for further assessment;
results from EXCEL:
Critbound -0.09209837 acc. to FDA
CL -0.091279223 acc. to E/T
My knowledge in SAS is not enough, to draw the formula somewhere.
Can someone give me a hint on the reason for the 2 different variability results, and may be a comparison of the formulas?
thanks a lot
FI
Complete thread:
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