RSABE: FDA vs. EMA [RSABE / ABEL]
Hi Angus!
Well, I have no idea what Pharsight calculated here – I get other values.
See also a comparison with Table I of Tóthfalusi et al. (2009).
Values in red: The calculated limits at CV=30% are not applicable with FDA's method; 80%-125% are used instead. Expanded limits for CV>50% are not allowed by the EMA; the limits for CV=50% are used instead.
It’s important to note that FDA’s and EMA’s approaches are different; FDA’s leads to a discontinuity of the acceptance range at CV=30%, because the scaling CV is 25% – but only applied at CV >30%: See the following two plots (lin and log scale):
![[image]](img/uploaded/image58.png)
![[image]](img/uploaded/image59.png)
The dotted red lines demonstrate FDA’s procedure: from their formula scaling would start at CV 25%, but is only allowed for >30% – with the scaling factor of 25%. Therefore this nice step. So far about global harmonization.
Orange dots are Pharsight’s values. A vendor-specific ‘compromise’ across the Atlantic?
For some background see
If you have to deal with the FDA, simply follow the progesterone guidance from April 2010.
The restriction on the point estimate (GMR) of 80–125% in both regulations is statistically not justified, but entirely political.
P.S.: Search the forum for RSABE, reference scaled bioequivalence, or HVD – a lot of stuff is waiting for you.
❝ I am interested in what folks think of this …
Well, I have no idea what Pharsight calculated here – I get other values.

CV% Pharsight slide 15 FDA’s limits EMA’s limits
30 80% - 125% [77.0% - 129.9%] 80.0% - 125.0%
35 77% - 130% 73.9% - 135.3% 77.2% - 129.5%
40 74% - 135% 71.0% - 140.9% 74.6% - 134.0%
45 71% - 141% 68.2% - 146.5% 72.2% - 138.6%
50 68% - 147% 65.7% - 152.3% 69.8% - 143.2%
55 63.3% - 158.0% [67.7% - 147.8%]
60 61.0% - 163.8% [65.6% - 152.4%]
Values in red: The calculated limits at CV=30% are not applicable with FDA's method; 80%-125% are used instead. Expanded limits for CV>50% are not allowed by the EMA; the limits for CV=50% are used instead.
❝ … expansion of the confidence intervals.
<nitpicking>
The confidence interval is the same – the acceptance range (bioequivalence limits) is expanded.
</nitpicking>
It’s important to note that FDA’s and EMA’s approaches are different; FDA’s leads to a discontinuity of the acceptance range at CV=30%, because the scaling CV is 25% – but only applied at CV >30%: See the following two plots (lin and log scale):
![[image]](img/uploaded/image58.png)
![[image]](img/uploaded/image59.png)
The dotted red lines demonstrate FDA’s procedure: from their formula scaling would start at CV 25%, but is only allowed for >30% – with the scaling factor of 25%. Therefore this nice step. So far about global harmonization.
Orange dots are Pharsight’s values. A vendor-specific ‘compromise’ across the Atlantic?

For some background see
- Haidar SH, Davit B, Chen M-L, Conner D, Lee LM, Li QH, Lionberger R, Makhlouf F, Patel D, Schuirmann DJ, and LX Yu
Bioequivalence Approaches for Highly Variable Drugs and Drug Products
Pharm Res 25(1), 237–41 (2008)
DOI 10.1007/s11095-007-9434-x
free online resource
- Endrényi L and L Tóthfalusi
Regulatory Conditions for the Determination of Bioequivalence of Highly Variable Drugs
J Pharm Pharm Sci 12(1), 138–49 (2009)
online abstract, free online resource
- Tóthfalusi L, Endrényi L and A García-Arieta
Evaluation of Bioequivalence for Highly Variable Drugs with Scaled Average Bioequivalence
Clin Pharmacokinet 48(11), 725–43 (2009)
online Abstract
If you have to deal with the FDA, simply follow the progesterone guidance from April 2010.
The restriction on the point estimate (GMR) of 80–125% in both regulations is statistically not justified, but entirely political.
P.S.: Search the forum for RSABE, reference scaled bioequivalence, or HVD – a lot of stuff is waiting for you.
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Complete thread:
- reference scaled bioequivalence AngusMcLean 2010-11-07 14:55
- reference scaled bioequivalence Helmut 2010-11-07 16:08
- reference scaled bioequivalence AngusMcLean 2010-11-08 22:22
- RSABE: FDA vs. EMAHelmut 2010-11-09 02:13
- Farside CV relabelling d_labes 2010-11-09 10:42
- Farside CV relabelling Helmut 2010-11-09 15:10
- Laszlo's constant d_labes 2010-11-09 16:46
- Farside CV relabelling AngusMcLean 2010-11-09 17:12
- Widened calculations step by step d_labes 2010-11-09 19:48
- Widened calculations step by step AngusMcLean 2010-11-09 20:46
- ln vs. log Helmut 2010-11-09 22:07
- ln on US calculators! d_labes 2010-11-10 08:31
- Spreadsheet addiction Helmut 2010-11-10 13:42
- Widened calculations step by step AngusMcLean 2010-11-09 20:46
- CV vs. sigma Helmut 2010-11-09 20:11
- CV vs. sigma AngusMcLean 2010-11-09 20:57
- log(e) vs. log(10) Helmut 2010-11-09 21:31
- slide 15 of the Pharsight presentation SDavis 2010-11-19 18:02
- CV vs. sigma AngusMcLean 2010-11-09 20:57
- Widened calculations step by step d_labes 2010-11-09 19:48
- Farside CV relabelling Helmut 2010-11-09 15:10
- one more ref. for the ref. list of RSABE yjlee168 2010-11-30 07:16
- Great! Helmut 2010-11-30 15:44
- Farside CV relabelling d_labes 2010-11-09 10:42
- RSABE: FDA vs. EMAHelmut 2010-11-09 02:13
- reference scaled bioequivalence AngusMcLean 2010-11-08 22:22
- reference scaled bioequivalence Helmut 2010-11-07 16:08