TRT|RTR rulez? Really? No. [RSABE / ABEL]
Dear d_labes,
Thank you.
Yes, I realise that the error variance in TRT and RTR can differ but does that leave us really helpless? From the two sequences we get two equations with two unknowns -eqn. 9.3.21- from which we can solve explicitly for s2wR and s2wT. We could plug those into 9.2.17 and get 90% CI's.
Am I overlooking something?
❝ The key is hidden in Formulas 9.3.21 and 9.3.22 showing that the expected variances of the sequence groups TRT and RTR are not the same. Thus you can't pool them without the danger of too liberal or too conservative results after doing so. You had to use a method which accounts for this heteroscedasticity. AFAIK there is no in the context we discuss here, except eventually a real mixed model analysis.
Thank you.
Yes, I realise that the error variance in TRT and RTR can differ but does that leave us really helpless? From the two sequences we get two equations with two unknowns -eqn. 9.3.21- from which we can solve explicitly for s2wR and s2wT. We could plug those into 9.2.17 and get 90% CI's.
Am I overlooking something?
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Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
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ElMaestro
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