Yeah but, no but ... [Two-Stage / GS Designs]

posted by d_labes  – Berlin, Germany, 2012-08-07 16:42 (5064 d 18:06 ago) – Posting: # 9046
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Dear Helmut!

:clap:

❝ ❝ What if the CV comes out other than supposed in the planning?


❝ Good point! In order to be protected against that sims should cover a realistic (!) range of CVs (and n1 – drop outs!), not only the expected one. If the (mandatory?) a posteriori sim shows αemp. >0.05, bad luck. If we go with a fixed sample design instead and the CV turns out to be higher than expected we may fail as well. Part of the game.

❝ But let’s simulate. Method B on steroids wo power,


:cool:

αadj. 0.0380, but CV 35%.

           Ratio 1.25                 │             Ratio 0.95             

❝ ──────────────────────────────────────┼─────────────────────────────────────

❝                      % in    empiric  │                      % in   empiric
❝  n   (5%, 50%, 95%) stage 2     α     │  n   (5%, 50%, 95%) stage 2   1-β 

❝ 56.8  36   56   80   92.10   0.057127 │ 46.7  36   36   78   42.2   0.83226

Ouch! Bad idea. ...


Got you! :-D

❝ Now for the positive part. If one follows Method B, IMHO a posteriori simulations are not necessary if the study was planned with a n1 corresponding to max. αemp.. That would mean that we are already on ‘top of the ridge’. What could happen?


Beeing on the ‘top of the ridge’ would mean IMHO that we are practically working with alpha1,2 = 0.0294.

❝ BTW, empiric power is also interesting:


[image]


Another rather clear message of this nice picture: Don't use n1 as low as 12 ('internal pilot' in the usual understanding of many sponsors) if the anticipated CV is >25%.

Regards,

Detlew

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