New paper (method D for PE 0.90) [Two-Stage / GS Designs]
❝ ❝ ... It might be possible to adjust the α level for methods B/C as well, but this has not been evaluated yet.
❝
❝ This sentence of the paper is confusing me somewhat
.
❝ As far as I had understood the method D is a variant of method C with adjusted alpha level.
This sentence is my intepretation. B/C are based on Pocock’s 0.0294. You are right about method D. The original quote is:
Although methods B and C, with the assumed GMR of 0.95 for the estimation of power and second-stage sample size as described in our first paper, in our opinion, provide acceptable control of the Type I error rate, changing the assumed GMR from 0.95 to 0.90 with these methods results in excessive inflation of the Type I error rate under some circumstances, and should be avoided. It is possible that by adjusting the α levels (α spending function) Methods B and C could be modified so as to control the Type I error rate with an assumed GMR of 0.90, but that is beyond the scope of this investigation.
❝ Moreover I don't share the authors view of "excessive inflation of Type I error rate".
Of course the criterion the authors have set for an "acceptable" inflation (i.e., ≤5.2%) is arbitrary.
❝ In view of other Type I inflation allowed by the FDA, f.i. the inflation around CV=30% for the scaled ABE up to 6.5%-7% due to the regulatory sw0=0.25 (see this presentation, page 23) I would consider the inflations observed in the paper (max. 0.0547) marginal.
Me too. On the other hand, I’m not sure whether EMA cares about the FDA.
I talked to Barbara Davit last year about this issue and she said that simulations by Donald Schuirmann showed the contrary. But nothing is published and as a fan of the two Lászlós I have strong doubts. The GL states:If this approach is adopted appropriate steps must be taken to preserve the overall type I error of the experiment and the stopping criteria should be clearly defined prior to the study.
Bonus questions:
- What is an acceptable inflation?
- There’s no stopping criterion in Potvin’s method. My protocols stated clearly that there is none in the method and were approved by the BfArM and two IECs. Experiences?
❝ What makes me also wondering is that the alpha "inflation" is shifted to higher stage 1 number of subjects if the variability increases. This is somehow counter-intuitive to me. Small is beautiful?
Yes, that’s strange.
Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна!
![[image]](https://static.bebac.at/pics/Blue_and_yellow_ribbon_UA.png)
Helmut Schütz
![[image]](https://static.bebac.at/img/CC by.png)
The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮
Science Quotes
Complete thread:
- Potvin method B subtleties d_labes 2011-01-31 14:24
- Potvin method B subtleties jdetlor 2011-02-01 17:17
- Potvin method B subtleties d_labes 2011-02-02 09:15
- Potvin method B subtleties jdetlor 2011-02-02 16:08
- Potvin method B subtleties d_labes 2011-02-02 09:15
- Another one ... d_labes 2011-02-07 14:32
- Oops! Helmut 2011-02-07 15:24
- Oops! d_labes 2011-02-07 16:29
- Oops! Helmut 2011-02-07 16:47
- Oops! ElMaestro 2011-02-07 17:06
- Simul'ants in my pants d_labes 2011-02-08 09:07
- Need for speed... ElMaestro 2011-02-13 10:57
- Need for speed... d_labes 2011-02-15 14:06
- Need for speed... ElMaestro 2011-02-15 17:39
- Pocock alpha's d_labes 2011-02-16 09:18
- ElMaestro's brain ElMaestro 2011-02-16 09:32
- ElMaestro's brain d_labes 2011-02-16 10:05
- ElMaestro's brain ElMaestro 2011-02-16 12:07
- Numbers d_labes 2011-02-16 13:45
- ElMaestro's brain ElMaestro 2011-02-16 12:07
- ElMaestro's brain d_labes 2011-02-16 10:05
- ElMaestro's brain ElMaestro 2011-02-16 09:32
- Pocock alpha's d_labes 2011-02-16 09:18
- Need for speed... ElMaestro 2011-02-15 17:39
- Need for speed... d_labes 2011-02-15 14:06
- Need for speed... ElMaestro 2011-02-13 10:57
- Oops! Helmut 2011-02-07 16:47
- Oops! d_labes 2011-02-07 16:29
- Oops! Helmut 2011-02-07 15:24
- Bonus counter-question ElMaestro 2011-02-07 23:44
- Speed is the question d_labes 2011-02-08 08:36
- New paper (method D for PE 0.90) Helmut 2011-04-18 12:58
- New paper (method D for PE 0.90) d_labes 2011-04-19 08:58
- New paper (method D for PE 0.90)Helmut 2011-04-19 14:30
- New paper (method D for PE 0.90) ElMaestro 2011-04-19 14:49
- Stopping criterion # futility rule Helmut 2011-04-19 15:28
- New paper (method D for PE 0.90) d_labes 2011-04-19 08:58
- Potvin method B subtleties jdetlor 2011-02-01 17:17
