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FDA loves replicate bears? [🇷 for BE/BA]

posted by yjlee168 – Kaohsiung, Taiwan, 2009-04-23 10:08 (6266 d 05:44 ago) – Posting: # 3587
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Dear D. Labes,

Thank you for your message. I find that currently bear's model dealing with replicate ABE data is equivalent to SAS Proc MIXED as the follows:

PROC MIXED;

CLASSES SEQ SUBJ PER TRT;

MODEL Y = SEQ PER TRT/ DDFM=SATTERTH;

RANDOM SUB=SUBJ G;

REPEATED/GRP=TRT SUB=SUBJ;

ESTIMATE 'T vs. R' TRT 1 -1/CL ALPHA=0.1;

(Ref.: Jones, B and Kenward MG. Design and Analysis of Cross-Over Trials, 2nd ed., Chapman & Hall/CRC, 2003). If using TYPE setting, either FA0(2) or CSH as recommended by FDA, we will not get the exactly same 90%CIs from running bear using lme(). I guess we need to find out how to comply with here.

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