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Hi d_labes,
How was the holiday?
I completely agree and I think we mean the same - my point was that previously in this forum there was some confusion abut PROC GLM with the "random" statement giving the impression that a random effects (plural) model was applied. This isn't the case cf Bogus. I just wished to make sure this issue wasn't somehow derived from that confusion.
For a 2,2,2-BE design one can go via a normal linear model where the subject MS will do if subject is included as a term.
How was the holiday?
❝ IMHO you can't talk about inter-subject variance if using an "all effects as fixed" EMAphylistic model. In such a model there is only one error source, the residual error.
I completely agree and I think we mean the same - my point was that previously in this forum there was some confusion abut PROC GLM with the "random" statement giving the impression that a random effects (plural) model was applied. This isn't the case cf Bogus. I just wished to make sure this issue wasn't somehow derived from that confusion.
❝ If one is interested in inter-subject variance (to what end ever) a mixed model evaluated via real mixed model software is indispensable.
For a 2,2,2-BE design one can go via a normal linear model where the subject MS will do if subject is included as a term.
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Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Complete thread:
- Intra subject variability vs Inter subject variability rana 2013-03-01 13:20
![[Mix]](https://static.bebac.at/img/mix.png "open in Mix view")
- CVinter < CVintra: happens sometimes… Helmut 2013-03-01 16:12
- CVinter < CVintra: happens sometimes… ElMaestro 2013-03-01 20:51
- CVinter < CVintra: happens sometimes… Helmut 2013-03-01 23:10
- CVinter < CVintra or negative variance component? d_labes 2013-03-02 15:57
- Sometimes both… Helmut 2013-03-02 18:46
- Must be the optimizer for Mixed Effects Muddles ElMaestro 2013-03-02 22:22
- Fixed Effects Muddleties d_labes 2013-03-05 12:57
- Fixed Effects MuddletiesElMaestro 2013-03-05 13:06
- Fixed Effects Muddleties Helmut 2013-03-05 15:53
- Fixed Effects Muddleties d_labes 2013-03-05 12:57
- CVinter < CVintra or negative variance component? d_labes 2013-03-02 15:57
- CVinter < CVintra: happens sometimes… Helmut 2013-03-01 23:10
- CVinter < CVintra: happens sometimes… ElMaestro 2013-03-01 20:51
- CVinter < CVintra: happens sometimes… Helmut 2013-03-01 16:12
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