US High Fat Breakfast [Study Performance]
Dear M,
please look here first.
Full ACK.
See also this post.
I've seen protocols were the amount of food (of course not the composition) was different for males/females. All these studies were European ones (not used in NDA/ANDAs).
If you run into the situation that a volunteer capitulated in the first period - you may give it a try: write down a protocol deviation and serve a (reduced) amount in the second period. This is only valid for a BE study in the fed state. If happening in the second period or a fed/fasting study, you are out of luck.
I wouldn't do that. You would end up with messy scales, etc. There's a lot of literature about the composition of food out there (just check a pack of toast in the local supermarket - there's a lot printed on it). Even the old Geigy tables were quite informative. Just document what you have served in a simple way plus the breakdown according to FDA's guideline (fat, carbohydrates, protein)...
On what? Sticking to 'their' breakfast? Yes. Weighing ingredients - haven't heard of.
I once established a European substitute (until FDA's prestidigitation with 'viscosity' came in), and found it a little bit difficult to get an idea about FDA's specifications of their 'test meal', e.g.,
Using energy contents for 1 g of fat (38.9 kJ) and protein/carbohydrate (17.2 kJ) I ended up with
12% (128 kcal) of protein, 29% (308 kcal) of carbohydrate, and 59% (631 kcal) of fat. So even FDA's 'test meal' does not meet their own spec's (150, 250, 500-600)...
please look here first.
❝ The US high fat breakfast as required by the FDA in fed studies is quite a
❝ stomach-full for us Europeans (female study subjects in particular find it
❝ hard to finish).
Full ACK.

❝ How much of the breakfast must be consumed to be eligible? Is it
❝ acceptable to eat say 60% or 75%?
I've seen protocols were the amount of food (of course not the composition) was different for males/females. All these studies were European ones (not used in NDA/ANDAs).
If you run into the situation that a volunteer capitulated in the first period - you may give it a try: write down a protocol deviation and serve a (reduced) amount in the second period. This is only valid for a BE study in the fed state. If happening in the second period or a fed/fasting study, you are out of luck.
❝ How important is it to weigh each constituent (bacon, waffles etc.)?
I wouldn't do that. You would end up with messy scales, etc. There's a lot of literature about the composition of food out there (just check a pack of toast in the local supermarket - there's a lot printed on it). Even the old Geigy tables were quite informative. Just document what you have served in a simple way plus the breakdown according to FDA's guideline (fat, carbohydrates, protein)...
❝ I have heard that the FDA can be quite strict on this.
On what? Sticking to 'their' breakfast? Yes. Weighing ingredients - haven't heard of.
I once established a European substitute (until FDA's prestidigitation with 'viscosity' came in), and found it a little bit difficult to get an idea about FDA's specifications of their 'test meal', e.g.,
2 strips of bacon (estimated with 3 g each)
2 slices of toast (estimated with 37.5 g)
butter (who much? estimated with 20 g)Using energy contents for 1 g of fat (38.9 kJ) and protein/carbohydrate (17.2 kJ) I ended up with
12% (128 kcal) of protein, 29% (308 kcal) of carbohydrate, and 59% (631 kcal) of fat. So even FDA's 'test meal' does not meet their own spec's (150, 250, 500-600)...
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Complete thread:
- US High Fat Breakfast mdowling 2008-05-29 18:37
- US High Fat BreakfastHelmut 2008-05-29 21:13
- US High Fat Breakfast Helmut 2008-06-05 02:56
- US High Fat Breakfast rajasammour 2008-06-25 08:22