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posted by Helmut 
– Vienna, Austria, 2013-09-11 23:01 (4664 d 10:40 ago) – Posting: # 11482
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Hi John,
Why not? As you know we work on the same drugs (pAUCs standard). Never had a problem. Of course I describe the procedure in the protocol and even give an example plot similar to that one …
… showing how pAUCs, t75%, and HVD are calculated. Samples denoted with an orange circle were not taken at scheduled time points – they were either interpolated (at t=0 and t=4) or extrapolated (t=24).
I thought that you don’t have the 3.5 sample (delayed till 4:11)? But you have the one at 4:02. Interpolate between this one and the one before. If you feel that you are reaching too far “to the left”, drop the AUCs and keep the Cmax.
Who told you that?
Did you never have small time deviations close to the truncation time point and asked Phoenix/WinNonlin for partial AUCs? If yes, I’m surprised. If no, guess what was going on behind the veil (or look it up in the User’s Guide).
❝ ❝ BTW, if you ask Phoenix/WinNonlin for partial AUCs (and sampling wasn’t performed exactly at the cut-off time point) an interpolation between two adjacent time points (before/after) is used; linear if C2 ≥ C1 and log/linear if C2 < C1. Makes sense, IMHO.
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❝ I don't think you can make interpolation to obtain the concentration at the desire time right
Why not? As you know we work on the same drugs (pAUCs standard). Never had a problem. Of course I describe the procedure in the protocol and even give an example plot similar to that one …
![[image]](img/uploaded/image76.png)
… showing how pAUCs, t75%, and HVD are calculated. Samples denoted with an orange circle were not taken at scheduled time points – they were either interpolated (at t=0 and t=4) or extrapolated (t=24).
❝ (example: interpolate 4 hr concentration from 3.5 hr and 4.25 hr concentration)?
I thought that you don’t have the 3.5 sample (delayed till 4:11)? But you have the one at 4:02. Interpolate between this one and the one before. If you feel that you are reaching too far “to the left”, drop the AUCs and keep the Cmax.
❝ I thought you have to use the time point as is?
Who told you that?
Did you never have small time deviations close to the truncation time point and asked Phoenix/WinNonlin for partial AUCs? If yes, I’m surprised. If no, guess what was going on behind the veil (or look it up in the User’s Guide).
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