Delete instead of missing? [Software]
Hi John,
I don’t speak SAS, but until Detlew shows up you can try something: Instead of setting Test1’s observations to “
Try in the last line to delete
Edit: PHX seems to be more tolerant. Same results whether I exclude one treatment (my standard), set them to “
Full model (df 30)
Crippled models (df 14 each)
CIs in the crippled models are wider or narrower due to the different pooled variances and dfs. The PEs are also slightly different (closer to 1), which was a little bit surprising to me.

I don’t speak SAS, but until Detlew shows up you can try something: Instead of setting Test1’s observations to “
.
”, delete the respective rows completely.Try in the last line to delete
0
from the ESTIMATE
statement.Edit: PHX seems to be more tolerant. Same results whether I exclude one treatment (my standard), set them to “
.
”, or delete complete rows. In the second case it doesn’t matter whether I set one of the coefficients to 0 or leave it empty. Now for the interesting part: One of my studies, n=18, 6×3, all effects fixed.Full model (df 30)
PE 90% CI ISCV MSE
T1/R 98.91 94.73 103.27 7.42 0.005485
T2/R 101.59 97.29 106.07 7.42 0.005485
Crippled models (df 14 each)
PE 90% CI ISCV MSE
T1/R 99.00 93.64 104.66 9.19 0.008413
T2/R 101.52 98.15 105.02 5.53 0.003108
CIs in the crippled models are wider or narrower due to the different pooled variances and dfs. The PEs are also slightly different (closer to 1), which was a little bit surprising to me.

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Complete thread:
- SAS: Dropping a treatment from a 3-way study jag009 2013-08-01 21:08
- Delete instead of missing?Helmut 2013-08-01 22:17
- SAS: Dropping a treatment from a 3-way study d_labes 2013-08-02 09:06
- SAS: Dropping a treatment from a 3-way study Helmut 2013-08-02 17:23
- SAS: Dropping a treatment from a 3-way study jag009 2013-08-02 17:38
- SAS: Dropping a treatment from a 3-way study BRN 2015-07-15 17:00
- SAS: estimate statement in Proc GLM d_labes 2015-07-17 08:37