No prediction of BE from dissolution [Dissolution / BCS / IVIVC]
Dear Srinivasu,
have you read my original reply (given below)?
No idea; I don’t have a crystall ball and I’m not a friend of reading tea leaves. It’s like you want to know something about the dark side of the moon and are equipped with a telescope only. But you need a space probe: Perform a (pilot) BE study.
Concerning your first question on other methods to compare dissolution profiles: You have an asymetric sigmoidal function. Based on your data you may fit e.g. a 4-parameter logistic function Y=(-dissinf/(1+(x/inflect)^slope)^asym)+dissinf, but what will you gain? You have only 5 degrees of freedom. Parameters (95% CI) are:
Though the reference shows a ‘better’ fit, CIs of many parameters include zero and therefore are noninformative (aka nonsense).
![[image]](img/uploaded/image49.png)
Does this image show us anything new (what we haven’t seen by f1=19.2% & f2=43.4)? Obviously not.
If you want to start serious formulation development, you should start (!) with a small three-way cross-over study (test, reference, i.v. or an oral solution). Afterwards (!) try to develop a dissolution method which allows to establish an IVIVC (preferably Level A by deconvolution). Only then, you may peek at The Dark Side of the Moon…
have you read my original reply (given below)?
❝ ❝ It’s only possible to predict BE if you have established an in vivo-in vitro-correlation (IVIVC).
❝ Let me know the chances of bioequivalence.
No idea; I don’t have a crystall ball and I’m not a friend of reading tea leaves. It’s like you want to know something about the dark side of the moon and are equipped with a telescope only. But you need a space probe: Perform a (pilot) BE study.
Concerning your first question on other methods to compare dissolution profiles: You have an asymetric sigmoidal function. Based on your data you may fit e.g. a 4-parameter logistic function Y=(-dissinf/(1+(x/inflect)^slope)^asym)+dissinf, but what will you gain? You have only 5 degrees of freedom. Parameters (95% CI) are:
parameter test reference
dissinf 101.158771 ( 24.182645, 178.134897) 94.688213 ( 83.270663, 106.105764)
inflect 40.030919 (-2386.12648, 2466.18832 ) 6.046716 (-19.545979, 31.639411)
slope 1.509877 ( 0.073172, 2.946581) 2.411028 ( 0.740197, 4.081859)
asym 19.762344 (-1717.06569, 1756.59038 ) 4.301083 (-31.747713, 40.349879)Though the reference shows a ‘better’ fit, CIs of many parameters include zero and therefore are noninformative (aka nonsense).
![[image]](img/uploaded/image49.png)
Does this image show us anything new (what we haven’t seen by f1=19.2% & f2=43.4)? Obviously not.
If you want to start serious formulation development, you should start (!) with a small three-way cross-over study (test, reference, i.v. or an oral solution). Afterwards (!) try to develop a dissolution method which allows to establish an IVIVC (preferably Level A by deconvolution). Only then, you may peek at The Dark Side of the Moon…
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Complete thread:
- Based on Vitro dissolution study in multi pH srinivasu 2010-06-12 11:53
- IVIVC Helmut 2010-06-12 12:32
- IVIVC srinivasu 2010-06-12 12:53
- No prediction of BE from dissolutionHelmut 2010-06-12 16:04
- No prediction of BE from dissolution Dr_Dan 2010-06-14 09:30
- About desire Helmut 2010-06-15 12:43
- About desire Dr_Dan 2010-06-15 16:02
- About desire ElMaestro 2010-06-17 00:03
- About desire Helmut 2010-06-15 12:43
- No prediction of BE from dissolution Dr_Dan 2010-06-14 09:30
- No prediction of BE from dissolutionHelmut 2010-06-12 16:04
- IVIVC srinivasu 2010-06-12 12:53
- IVIVC Helmut 2010-06-12 12:32
