Thanks for clarifying [Power / Sample Size]

posted by Ben – Germany, 2012-03-02 19:14 (5221 d 03:05 ago) – Posting: # 8209
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Dear Helmut,

Thanks for the quick reply!

❝ ❝ On slide 31 from Helmut's lecture it's written that exact methods rely on AS 243 (or AS 184). I thought the exact method stands for solving the integral defined by Owens Q function (see also this post); but AS 243 (and AS 184) are algorithms to compute cumulative probabilities of the noncentral t-distribution (aren't they?) and hence are only applicable in the case where the approximation via noncentral t-distribution is being used. So one cannot talk about using the exact method and AS 243 in one sentence.


❝ Well, I could. :-D I must confess that my wording might be confusing. I used ‘exact’ in a sense of numerically approximating Owen’s solution.


Ok, got it. Thanks for clarifiying.

❝ ❝ Or am I wrong here?


❝ Not at all.


Puh! Good ;-)

❝ Owen’s method is no algo. Unfortunately nothing is stated in the manual (neither in v7 nor in v5).


I don't have the paper from Owen, so I cannot tell. But thanks for letting me know; so the wording "an algorithm due to Owen" in the manual is not the best one... Yes, unfortunately it is not clear what nQuery does.

❝ ❝ Another thing is: AS 184 is older than AS 243, but is it worse?


❝ Good question. Next question.

:-D

❝ Interesting! But as I said above right now I cannot confirm which algo R. Lenth implemented into FARTSSIE. David’s statement ‘Dr. Russel Lenth generously provided the library subroutines to calculate non-central distributions (NCt)’ is not telling. See also the end of this post. Maybe VBA runs into trouble at T/R=1; have to dig out Dieter’s paper (can’t promise – piles are high).


Ok, I got your point. As an alternative to FARTSSIE, isn't R using AS 243 for sure? At least this result (meaning 66.674%) is confirmed by using PowerTOST with method=noncentral.

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