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posted by Helmut Homepage – Vienna, Austria, 2012-06-12 20:23 (5110 d 05:41 ago) – Posting: # 8716
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Hi John!

❝ What if some subjects do not fit with the same PK model?


Then I would consider the 2-step method nonsense. Average subjects with similar PK only. Imagine you get a long apparent (!) half life in a 1-compartment and a 2-compartment. In the former case this is linked to elimination from the central compartment1 but in the latter case there are two possibilities
  1. Slow elimination from Vc – like in the one-compartment case; fast exchange between central and peripheral (k12 & k21 >> k10).
  2. Fast elimination from Vc, but a slow distribution phase (either k12 or k21).
Now we end up with parameter identifiability problems.2
In comparing subjects following 1- & 2-compartment PK it would be possible to average the ‘central’ compartment and the elimination – but only in case #1, IMHO.


  1. Nitpicking there is no ‘central’ compartment because we don’t have peripheral(s) in this model. The whole body is seen as a big bucket (yeah: our bones are assumed to be made out of the same stuff as the vitreous body. Funny idea). One-compartment PK doesn’t exist – sometimes the analytical method is not able to catch the slower phase.
  2. Bonate PL. Pharmacokinetic-Pharmacodynami Modeling and Simulation.
    ‘Identifiability of Compartmental Models’
    , New York: Springer; 2006. p. 29–37.

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