Uncertainty of CVs; AUC72 - actual vs. nominal time [Power / Sample Size]

posted by Helmut Homepage – Vienna, Austria, 2012-05-11 19:35 (5144 d 07:06 ago) – Posting: # 8562
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Hi John!

❝ I went with T/R ratio 90%, power 90 and came up with something like 36-40 subjects. I added a few more in case of dropouts due to the washout.


I got:
require(PowerTOST)
expsampleN.TOST(targetpower=0.9, theta0=0.9, CV=0.14, dfCV=12-2, design="2x2")
++++++++ Equivalence test - TOST ++++++++
   Sample size est. with uncertain CV
-----------------------------------------
Study design:  2x2 crossover
log-transformed data (multiplicative model)

alpha = 0.05, target power = 0.9
BE margins        = 0.8 ... 1.25
Null (true) ratio = 0.9
CV                 = 0.14 with 10 df
one-sided upper CL = 0.2247103 (level = 95%)

Sample size (ntotal)
 n    exp. power
32   0.901134


With >40 you should be on the safe side.

❝ […] I did some calculation & modeling based on the t1/2, Tmax and gave the CRO a time limit of 30 mins for the 72 hour return blood draw.


OK.

❝ That is subject will be dropped from the study if they miss the cutoff time collection for the 72 hours in period 1, or their data will not be included in the stat analysis if they complete both periods but missing 72 hour sample in period 2. If the CRO can't do that then my threshold is 1 hour.


You are aware that you may loose power according to this procedure? What if the CRO want’s to make money (they all do)1 and tell the subjects “Don’t worry too much about the 72 hours, es­pe­ci­ally in the second period.” Maybe you see some ‘personal reasons’ for coming late of the type

❝ One hour is acceptable since I did a comparison between AUC0-72 and AUC0-73 based on t1/2 of 25-40 hours and the difference is less than 1%.


Confirmed.

❝ Their limit of 4 hour is way too long. Otherwise I will ask to have them subjects housed for 72 hours.


Supported.

❝ I don't want to mess around with a BE assessment.


Yep! Probably would need a strong stand against the FDA.

❝ […] Do you have the drinking smiley?

I added this one: :party:
If you prefer other virtual drinks, let me know.


  1. “We are really terribly sorry that the study did not pass due to so many excluded subjects. Do you want to repeat it in a larger sample size?”
  2. Flimsy excuse. Public transportation is a nightmare everywhere in the US, IMHO.

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