Urinary PK parameters and CLr [General Sta­tis­tics]

posted by Helmut Homepage – Vienna, Austria, 2009-12-11 18:02 (6030 d 00:17 ago) – Posting: # 4474
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Dear Stefano!

❝ My concerns regard the urinary parameters: amount of drug excreted (Ae), maximum excretion rate (Rmax) and elimination half life (t½).

Ae. In your post you suggest to use an additive model.


Yes. Personal views, as mostly.

❝ However, in the FDA guidance […] an analysis based on log-transformed data is requested


I know. FDA also wants subjects to consume a diet of 2500-3500 Calories per day for the 16 days of hospitalization. That's a tough slimming cure! :vomit: I would expect volunteers to loose a lot of weight. Not suitable for a cross-over. That's about science in (some) guidelines.

❝ From your experience, both these approaches are acceptable?


Ae, Rmax: OK, even the last guideline-oriented regulator has heard about the holy grail of log-transformation by now. More science-oriented ones would accept a non-transformed analysis. To be honest my last urine study dates more than 15 years back. And, yes I didn't get complaints about any of them.

My reasoning is: Plasma metrics are based on concentrations (ratios! The volume of distribution comes into play), but urine metrics are based on amounts (mass).

t½. The same considerations as for plasma concentration half life apply for this parameter?


Which considerations do you mean? The concept of BE-testing relies on the assumption of time-invariant clearances. Unless we go for stable isotope simultaneous iv administration, we have no means to check this assumption. We simply ignore it. If we have an absorption faster (ka > 5kel) than elimination, the apparent elimination should be roughly the same for both formulations. But I've rarely seen anybody testing for equivalence of t½. An excpetion are PK-interaction studies, where a comparison is mandatory (concept of constant clearances may not hold).

❝ As regards renal clearance (CLr, based also on blood AUC) I think that, if we assume log-normality for Ae, the same distribution can be hypothesized for this parameter.


Following your assumption, yes.

❝ But if we assume normality for Ae, how should CLr be analysed?


Tricky. :confused: Like D. Labes said: Next question, please.

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