Bioequivalence and Bioavailability Forum • Freedom for replicate bears

Freedom for replicate bears [🇷 for BE/BA]

posted by yjlee168 – Kaohsiung, Taiwan, 2009-04-19 23:38 (5478 d 12:23 ago) – Posting: # 3567
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Dear D. Labes,

❝ [image]

❝ Replicate berlin buddy bears

very cute. I like that!

❝ The key statement in bear for evaluating replicate BE studies (astonishing enough claimed as only 2-sequence designs allowed?) is

I think we can easily program bears to handle ABE data from more than 2 seq and/or more than 2 tmt in the future.

❝ [...]

❝ tmtR 0.14901302 tmtR

❝ tmtT 0.12216340 0.15 any body out there who knows how to get more decimals here?

You can try "options (digits=n)" in R console to increase decimals, where n the number decimal you like to display. If not work, it can be the built-in option in the package.

❝ [...] But all other available DDFM in Proc MIXED gave not a denDF=38 for the treatment effect. One gets always lower denDF in SAS and as a consequence of that wider 90% confidence intervals!

But as I can remember, we had validated 90%CI obtained from bears with those from SAS with replicate study using lme(). I will post the results here later. Basically we got the equivalent 90%CIs with SAS. Indeed, we know DenDFs obtained from bears are different from those using SAS. However, 90% CIs are the same.

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All the best,
-- Yung-jin Lee
bear v2.9.1:- created by Hsin-ya Lee & Yung-jin Lee
Kaohsiung, Taiwan https://www.pkpd168.com/bear
Download link (updated) -> here

Complete thread:

Freedom for replicate bears d_labes 2009-04-17 12:06 [🇷 for BE/BA]
- Freedom for replicate bears ElMaestro 2009-04-17 14:50
  - Contain does not contain d_labes 2009-04-17 15:07
- Freedom for replicate bears ElMaestro 2009-04-18 03:45
  - Freedom incompatible with baseball bats d_labes 2009-04-20 08:42
- Freedom for replicate bearsyjlee168 2009-04-19 21:38
  - Freedom to some degree d_labes 2009-04-20 08:30
    - Freedom to some degree yjlee168 2009-04-21 14:03
      - FDA loves replicate bears? d_labes 2009-04-21 16:11
        
        Cholesky factor ?! Helmut 2009-04-22 00:46
        
        Cholesky factor ?! d_labes 2009-04-22 11:20
        
        FDA loves replicate bears? yjlee168 2009-04-23 08:08
        
        FDA loves SAS code? d_labes 2009-04-23 09:48
        
        FDA loves SAS code? definitely. yjlee168 2009-04-23 10:46
        
        SAS? or R? or what? d_labes 2009-04-23 15:07
        
        SAS? or R? or what? Helmut 2009-04-23 15:25
        
        SAS? or R? or what? d_labes 2009-04-23 16:06
        
        SAS? or R? or what? Helmut 2009-04-23 16:30
        
        SAS? YES; R? why not? as long as they are useful... yjlee168 2009-04-23 19:56
        
        New Forum-Category 'bear'? Helmut 2009-04-23 20:03
        
        New Forum-Category 'bear'? yjlee168 2009-04-23 20:19
        
        New Forum-Category 'R for BE/BA' Helmut 2009-04-23 20:37
        
        New Forum-Category 'R for BE/BA' yjlee168 2009-04-24 09:19
        
        Replicated again d_labes 2009-04-24 08:27
        
        Replicated again yjlee168 2009-04-24 09:26
- getting decimals ElMaestro 2010-06-03 05:21
  - getting decimals yjlee168 2010-06-03 08:37
    - getting decimals ElMaestro 2010-06-04 01:59
- Freedom for replicate bears ElMaestro 2011-01-27 21:50
  - lmer vs. lme d_labes 2011-01-28 09:02
    - lmer vs. lme ElMaestro 2011-01-28 09:42
      - lmer vs. lme d_labes 2011-01-28 11:37
        
        V ElMaestro 2011-01-28 12:14
        
        V corrected d_labes 2011-01-28 14:12
        
        V corrected ElMaestro 2011-01-28 15:20
        
        Peculiar partial replicate d_labes 2011-01-28 16:10